The NY Times wrote a hit piece on Andrew Wakefield recently. They couldn't reach him for comment. But I could. He had a lot to say. Turns out we are repeating history.
Sorry, for the late comment/question, but i am watching this interview for the first time: Does anyone know the incidence of Autism in countries that do not administer the MMR vaccine? I understand it's not the same as a control trial, but if it's statistically significant, isn't that strong evidence against MMR?
came back to this post of yours Steve, after getting down in debate with people over the sad story of MMS and Dr Wakefielld. I would like to use a link to this Substack to back up my debate. I have been a supporter of Wakefield for many, many, years, and during the COVID debacle I added you to the pantheon of heros too. Thank you, thank you, for EVERYTHING you do.....
A great interview Steve. Andrew Wakefield seems to me to be completely genuine. He could have let a couple of things slip past, but he corrected things, even though those truths were hard for him to say. Thank you Steve.
Wow!! I have to admit I never would've listened to Dr Wakefield's arguments before. I knew somehow they caused a small amount of autism and that we denied this because we were afraid no one would get their kids vaccinated. There will always be a child who gets very sick and possibly disabled from an illness they could've been vaccinated for. Do we have a way to treat Polio? Diphtheria? Whooping cough? I'm 100% on taking many of the vaccines off the childhood vaccine schedule. There's a lot I don't understand but going on intuition I'm certainly not taking any more vaccines. I'd say maybe Tdp, if it came without the diphtheria and pertussis.
It's a really hard topic for people to talk about but maybe we should. It seems we're going to disable healthy children with a vaccine. It's usually the children that have a health issue that suffer from these diseases so maybe save the vaccine for those children?
Steve you're unhinged dude....offering "1 million" every time just shows that you're part of a wealthy elite and begging for attention....you can't keep saying "1 million to this" "1 million to prove me wrong..." "1 million to debate me..." you sound awful and it does NOT help your cause. I do not support your cause, I think you have lost it!
I had somehow missed this. Or wasn't ready to hear wakefield's side. Will queue it up. I do find when I've googled it its odd how they emphasis is on 'invastive' procedures on children. Which doesn't go hard at the theory, or at the alleged fraud, and doesn't seem that convincing to me...but I bet it serves as warning to anyone thinking of doing their own studies. 'You will be smeared as doing something evil to children'
I think this is one of the most jaw dropping informative interviews ever. Thank you so much Steve as you had the most honest conversation about vaccines with Andy Wakefield that I have ever heard. I have been a big fan and the second film Vaxxed, the people's voice had me in tears throughout. I regrettably gave my kids the MMR but thankfully they are not obviously injured at all but I have stopped them getting the Covid shot or the horrific HPV vaccine which so many of my daughter's friends have. I am unjabbed but have lost friends and even my kids accused me of being far right for so long... it's not been easy. I thank you Steve for your bravery and facing your own humility having had the jabs. Let's find a cure to reverse this poison. You are an amazing man for turning around and facing it and bringing this evil to the uneducated.
I don’t think I got autism from vaccines. I think it only causes the very severe brain damaged form of autism in people with immune issues. I have zero immune issues.
Actually it probably shouldn’t be thought of as autism so much as global mental retardation that doesn’t spare the social part of the brain like other forms of mental retardation such as Down syndrome.
There’s a spectrum with autism. The damage begins in the gut and it extends to the myalin sheath in The Brain. The Vaccines cross the blood brain barrier.
I came to know Dr. Wakefield's work since 2014 when I was trying to help a man who was accused of shaking his baby when he took his daughter back to the hospital about 3 hours after the vaccination. Your interview helped to bring more light to Dr. Wakefield's work and his contributions to help children. I really appreciated your doing this and circulating the video.
It does make you wonder -- if the outcome for vaxxed kids is likely to be horrific beyond belief (and they know it will be), then why on earth would they do it? It'll destroy their credibility at a minimum. They must have an iron-clad guarantee there'll be no blow back for them. What's the only way that could be achieved? -- by covering it up big-time, then blaming the residual victims' fate on -- the unvaxxed & their ideological leaders. The unvaxxed will eventually be implicitly labelled as right wing, science-denying extremists no matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary.
Why are people so passive over such a horrifying mistreatment being blithely proposed for their kids? Apparently b/c people still trust institutions to some degree, if not the lying media. I guess they need to actually see kids on mortuary tables across the country before the truth (maybe) finally sinks in.
I saw a video from just seven years ago where Bill Maher said that anti-vax was a lefty problem and he himself was even somewhat vaccine skeptical, and still is.
Sorry, for the late comment/question, but i am watching this interview for the first time: Does anyone know the incidence of Autism in countries that do not administer the MMR vaccine? I understand it's not the same as a control trial, but if it's statistically significant, isn't that strong evidence against MMR?
came back to this post of yours Steve, after getting down in debate with people over the sad story of MMS and Dr Wakefielld. I would like to use a link to this Substack to back up my debate. I have been a supporter of Wakefield for many, many, years, and during the COVID debacle I added you to the pantheon of heros too. Thank you, thank you, for EVERYTHING you do.....
A great interview Steve. Andrew Wakefield seems to me to be completely genuine. He could have let a couple of things slip past, but he corrected things, even though those truths were hard for him to say. Thank you Steve.
https://odysee.com/@AdroitTeam:5/Lets-Compare-the-Vaccinated-to-the-Unvaccinated:6
Knocked out of the park!!!
This book reveals the false premises on which vaccine policy is based and the corrupted thinking that allows it
https://www.amazon.com/Turtles-All-Way-Down-Vaccine/dp/9655981045
Wow!! I have to admit I never would've listened to Dr Wakefield's arguments before. I knew somehow they caused a small amount of autism and that we denied this because we were afraid no one would get their kids vaccinated. There will always be a child who gets very sick and possibly disabled from an illness they could've been vaccinated for. Do we have a way to treat Polio? Diphtheria? Whooping cough? I'm 100% on taking many of the vaccines off the childhood vaccine schedule. There's a lot I don't understand but going on intuition I'm certainly not taking any more vaccines. I'd say maybe Tdp, if it came without the diphtheria and pertussis.
It's a really hard topic for people to talk about but maybe we should. It seems we're going to disable healthy children with a vaccine. It's usually the children that have a health issue that suffer from these diseases so maybe save the vaccine for those children?
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-political-economy-of-autism
Steve you're unhinged dude....offering "1 million" every time just shows that you're part of a wealthy elite and begging for attention....you can't keep saying "1 million to this" "1 million to prove me wrong..." "1 million to debate me..." you sound awful and it does NOT help your cause. I do not support your cause, I think you have lost it!
Let him have his fun..
I had somehow missed this. Or wasn't ready to hear wakefield's side. Will queue it up. I do find when I've googled it its odd how they emphasis is on 'invastive' procedures on children. Which doesn't go hard at the theory, or at the alleged fraud, and doesn't seem that convincing to me...but I bet it serves as warning to anyone thinking of doing their own studies. 'You will be smeared as doing something evil to children'
Another great Wakefield, when he was in my country, https://rumble.com/v1bexux-intervju-dr.-lidija-gajski-s-andrew-wakefieldom.html?fbclid=IwAR2AmVqMQ3VtpBhPE41NV4-XqD4eHCR-1uKybqh5YZ6TQfobHXwA2jGhES0
Do you have a video platform where your interviews can be watched,?
On rumble! https://rumble.com/user/stkirsch
I think this is one of the most jaw dropping informative interviews ever. Thank you so much Steve as you had the most honest conversation about vaccines with Andy Wakefield that I have ever heard. I have been a big fan and the second film Vaxxed, the people's voice had me in tears throughout. I regrettably gave my kids the MMR but thankfully they are not obviously injured at all but I have stopped them getting the Covid shot or the horrific HPV vaccine which so many of my daughter's friends have. I am unjabbed but have lost friends and even my kids accused me of being far right for so long... it's not been easy. I thank you Steve for your bravery and facing your own humility having had the jabs. Let's find a cure to reverse this poison. You are an amazing man for turning around and facing it and bringing this evil to the uneducated.
I don’t think I got autism from vaccines. I think it only causes the very severe brain damaged form of autism in people with immune issues. I have zero immune issues.
Actually it probably shouldn’t be thought of as autism so much as global mental retardation that doesn’t spare the social part of the brain like other forms of mental retardation such as Down syndrome.
There’s a spectrum with autism. The damage begins in the gut and it extends to the myalin sheath in The Brain. The Vaccines cross the blood brain barrier.
I don’t have those types of problems. I only have panic attacks. I’m sensitive to mercury poisoning and zinc deficiency.
I came to know Dr. Wakefield's work since 2014 when I was trying to help a man who was accused of shaking his baby when he took his daughter back to the hospital about 3 hours after the vaccination. Your interview helped to bring more light to Dr. Wakefield's work and his contributions to help children. I really appreciated your doing this and circulating the video.
It does make you wonder -- if the outcome for vaxxed kids is likely to be horrific beyond belief (and they know it will be), then why on earth would they do it? It'll destroy their credibility at a minimum. They must have an iron-clad guarantee there'll be no blow back for them. What's the only way that could be achieved? -- by covering it up big-time, then blaming the residual victims' fate on -- the unvaxxed & their ideological leaders. The unvaxxed will eventually be implicitly labelled as right wing, science-denying extremists no matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary.
Why are people so passive over such a horrifying mistreatment being blithely proposed for their kids? Apparently b/c people still trust institutions to some degree, if not the lying media. I guess they need to actually see kids on mortuary tables across the country before the truth (maybe) finally sinks in.
I think it's fear. Fear of disease gets in the way of better judgement.
I saw a video from just seven years ago where Bill Maher said that anti-vax was a lefty problem and he himself was even somewhat vaccine skeptical, and still is.
Thanks for this. Hoping my fellow docs are all waking up to this. Wakefield is a hero