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Rob's avatar
Jun 15Edited

Very well stated. I do have a couple of unrelated questions on virus and germ theory, but I will stay on course here. Perhaps, I will catchup with you on your Substack. One big takeaway from this thread. According to Steve’s poll, 37% of his Substack followers do not believe in a Covid virus. Huge progress is being made in uncovering the truth. I imagine if he asked that question a year ago, it would be less than half of that. I fully believed in viruses when I first started following Steve 3 or 4 years ago. I’m a paid subscriber for his relentless pursuit against the vaccines, but then these no-virus people started having some not so friendly encounters first. Imán my pursuit to defend Steve, I started asking questions. Those answers to those questions led me to more questions and into reading a few books. I began with the history. The BeChamp Pasteur book put a new light on things I believed about germs and led me to read a few other books. I would say I became solidly against believing in viruses about a year ago now, so I am still a newbie.

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SEF's avatar
Jun 15Edited

How do you know that is the "truth"? If I had to bet my life on the TRUTH while God is watching, the COVID virus absolutely does exist regardless of all the crowd-pleasing emotionally appealing arguments otherwise, and the COVID virus although not "deadly" itself did put unprecedented numbers of people in the hospital which led to unprecedented excess deaths through murderous protocols. And the mRNA vaccines only made the excess death problem much, much worse. If you had to bet your life on the "truth" while God is watching, what is the truth?

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Rob's avatar

I would prefer not to bet my life on anything, but if I had no choice, I would go with the belief that viruses do not exist. To your first point, I would say that COVID could well have been a thing, but not a virus that was passed on from person to person. Both controlled and environmental studies have failed to prove that one person could make another person sick with COVID.

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Michael Wallach's avatar

i "bet my life" every day by not wearing a mask without any concern at all :) it's a def is a joke, i am literally living proof ;)

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SEF's avatar
Jun 15Edited

I also don't wear masks without any concern because I know that the COVID virus is not deadly even though I would bet my life that it does exist, technicalities aside. Just like I never wore a mask in 2019 and before. So what's your point? And plus I already had COVID anyway, and it was a very minor inconvenience for all but one of my immediate family members young and old (we're all unvaccinated)- one family member was bedridden for a few days- they had never been bedridden in decades- but still nothing scary.

Most people I know in real life, unvaccinated or vaccinated, report very similar experiences with COVID as I described. I have not heard a single person IN REAL LIFE, off the internet, claim that COVID is a hoax (but for comparison, I HAVE heard many people in real life report unexpected deaths of people they know after taking the vaccines, and have witnessed such deaths myself). So I'm definitely not scared or concerned about COVID, but I absolutely believe it exists.

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