What I know is that some hospitals are now doing this on everyone and they are surprisingly high. But I don't know what the numbers are because nobody is talking about them. I wonder why?
This was DEFINITELY worth mentioning to my poor teenage/early twenties boys who insisted on getting the vaxx! All Pfizer(pfuck Pfizer), and my middle one had to take TWO boosters to enter UCLA the jerks! Those poor kids. NO MORE MADNESS!
We need either three or four categories. We need to include people who have had covid and possibly a separate category for those who are vaccinated and has covid
American Vet, Thanks for being sincere and not just making an ad hominem attack on me. I’m often on the rude side in my comments as it is so obvious to me what is going on. You and I are really in full agreement I think. I’m still trying to wake people up when I think they are worth the attempt. I gave you a positive example but I confess my batting average isn’t great. A lifetime of brainwashing isn’t easily overcome. Sigh…
In relation to the Troponin level, DR.Hiroshi Arakawa, a Japanese scholar living in Italy, introduces a French scholar's paper 2022June25 on short-term myocarditis and pericarditis after vaccination.
In particular, inoculation vs. non-inoculation are distinguished in one week.
I interpreted in the Nature study that the young unjabbed have a worse incidence of death if infected with covid & hospitalized. Doesn’t that counter most other data showing young people have almost NO RISK anyhow. Is this just another one of those fraudulent studies I wonder?? (Its early in the morning so it’s possible I didn’t interpret it 100% accurately.)
Here is what he(=Dr.Hiroshi Arakawa) says:Used Google Translator.→:::::
“The important point of this study is that we are looking at statistics from immediately after vaccination up to one week. In the previously introduced cohort study, the period up to 2 weeks after vaccination was treated as non-vaccination. In fact, short-term side effects due to vaccination are concentrated during this "magic two weeks" period. If this study also treats the "devil's two weeks" as unvaccinated, it will be concluded that unvaccinated people develop mysterious myocarditis, and that unvaccinated people develop more myocarditis than vaccinated people. Isn't it? In that case, it is also taken as a vicious fraud with a trick to include vaccinated people in unvaccinated. 』←:::::
The data is rather old and dated from May 12, 2021 to October 31, 2021. may be Wohan&δ-era. At that time and even now, the proportion of young people who die from infection is small, but it is not clear that young death is a side effect of jab or not.
Considering the situation of infection death among young people, I think this graph means that young people are more likely to die from Jab than from infection.I think the reason is that younger people have a stronger immune response than older people.
Even Pfizer's initial clinical trial data(at WohanEra) is a fraudulent practice of treating patients as unvaccinated for two weeks after vaccination.
This ensures that early(2weeks) side effects are ruled out.
Another acquaintance of mine died suddenly two days after being vaccinated, but I suspect he wasn't counted among the side effect deaths.
The fact that they(paper authors) were able to collect data from the French government, even if it was just a week shorter, is probably an improvement.
You and I would like to see data analysis from immediately after inoculation wouldn't you.
I'm going to have to stop looking at all these type of posts--it's getting worse than having to endure prescription drug advertisements on television. I have not been vaccinated, but I have my own problems. I have siblings, in-laws, and friends who have been vaccinated but have no issues that I know of.
Yes, but all the drug ads on tv list side effects including death and advise if you are pregnant, etc., etc.
I have never seen or heard of the side effects for the jab as it’s all censored and the medical professionals have been fired, silenced, and threatened. Despicable and evil.
Yes, that's true, so on this is and other substacks we are getting all the disclaimers and side effects and possible side effects, basically, not listed in a reassuring woman's voice or recited speedily, so the effect is the same as or worse than the commercials, which is my point., except one can more easily avoid reading on substack than being ambushed on TV. Has anyone studied the psychological and physical effect of being bombarded with all these commercials about disease and death or disability every day? After drug companies started Direct-to-Consumer advertising of prescription drugs in the mid to late 1980s, then humor columnist for the Miami Herald Dave Barry wrote a column in which he said, "These commercials tell you two things: You need this drug; This drug could kill you."
My best friend was just discharged from the ICU after a severe MI. One of his vein grafts (post CABG) developed a thrombus. What makes this bizarre is that during angioplasy the thrombus kept reforming despite constant 'removal' of the clot material. No plaque rupture so it's called an NSTEMI. However, the cardiologist HAS NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE WHERE THE THROMBUS KEPT GROWING AND REFILLING THE VESSEL. It's one for the books. This is, I believe, fallout from vaccine shedding and/or a previous COVID illness about two months earlier. This is some scary sh*t.
Here is a very unscientific statement perhaps, but, what if it has to do with the endothelial tissue or lining being damaged or gone due to spike proteins ravaging them? So the body detects a problem and only knows how to respond by persistent clotting? Please let us know here his progress. I am also wondering of a connection between what the embalmers are finding in those rubbery growths in veins after death? However, if those were present, they would be seen, I would think, during this medical procedure?
Following a train of thought, I recently read that the movie "The Blob", 1958, was originally going to be titled "The Glob", but that was changed to "The Blob" because "Glob" was used for some consumer product which they erroneously thought would prevent them from using it as the film title. They mean pretty much the same thing, but would "The Glob" have been a better title?
Although the surgeon said he had never seen this before, could he be covering it up as many in the medical field have been doing regarding “unusual adverse events”? Otherwise, this is just another “rare event”, never seen before oddity. Hmmmm!
In 475 previous comments, this may have already come up, but a good study shows that high-sensitivity troponin T is best to use, and that the 99th percentile value is 16.8 ng/L (0.0168 ng/mL).
--PMID: 31786204
In contrast, in 9 myocarditis cases after COVID vaccine, the median hs-Troponin T was 700 ng/L (0.7 ng/mL) -- over 40 times the "upper limit of normal" (40 times the 99th percentile).
My med tech contact in a blood lab of a major hospital tells me that several of these things are way up. But partly because of $$$. They "pay out", as he says. Insurance companies cover them for almost anything. In his hospital they do them on about 75% of the emergency patients. But, he did say that they see higher levels now. They do not even "call them up" anymore. They just count on the nurses to catch them on the screen. He said they used to "call up" anything over 2 ng. Then the hospital changed it to 4 ng. Then the hospital instructed them not to "call up" any. They started ramping up about 5 years ago, but he did say that they went up higher in the last couple years. Same thing with lactic acid tests. They also "pay out" well $$$. They run them on about 50% of the emergency cases. (And they take more work; separate tube, on ice, etc.). This is not anecdotal. I know him very well. And he has been at the hospital for at least 25 years. D-Dimer tests shot up at the beginning of the pandemic. They are still higher than pre-pandemic levels. About 20% of emergency room in his hospital. Also, BNP's are up. He attributes some to the fact that his hospital is in a location with a high amount of seniors (congestive heart failure).
My 92 yo mom, with FOUR jabs, recently went to the ER for chest pain. her troponin level was over 3600! She s till refuses to believe that her beloved 'vaccines' are the cause of her problems.
"They" are the troponin tests- a cardiac marker of heart tissue damage- and the levels of troponin that are finding are high. Meaning cardiac tissue damage.
If anyone has parents in Brookdale senior living. I think they are the second largest senior community in the US- be beware. I got a text from them regarding my parents. Not only are they pushing for a 5th mrna shot for their residents- but they are also mixing Pfizer and Moderna shots- which I think is tantamount to medical malpractice. Call them and protect your parents.
If you refuse the covid shot troponin becomes a non-issue Dr. Peter McCullough is the go-to expert when it comes to mrna shot heart damage and troponins.
I have seen way more non cardiac reactions to the mrna shots. Mainly clotting issues such as pulmonary embolisms, deep vein thrombosis. and ischemic strokes.
I think there was a physician in the Midwest that found that 70% of mrna jabbed had abnormal d-dimers within 3-4 days of the shot. This is not good news.
Early on, Dr Hoffe in Canada discovered and was vocal that 60% of his patients had high D Dimers. His building mysteriously burned down. Some say bc he exposed early on this issue with the jabs.
Wow, flashback to the '90s when RCMP gathered evidence that Arizona and Arkansas State Prisons were selling AIDS/Hepatitis tainted blood products (drawn from prisoners) to Canada in the '80s.
The evidence warehouse mysteriously burned down in Canada and a prison doctor's house full of evidence in Arkansas - on the same night. Nothing ever came of it and in fact the whole thing is mostly scrubbed from the internet.
Sounds like a fine discovery... SO another worthy question is how long would the elevated troponin levels last post-jab? Just days? Or longer...?
IDEA--One way to PROVE to the jab-happy deluded folks that they are harmed is via any reliable medical tests (ideally low cost ones that aren't invasive). It would be great if there was a panel--like D-dimer, Troponin, a couple more things... In a perfect world folks would not have to test within days of gettin' jabbed--but something that would show up even months down the road.
People who see TEST RESULTS will be more convinced they are harmed than by all our jabbering because nobody (I know) will read anything sent their way...
Matter o' fact, even MORE ideal would be something'you don't need a doctor to prescribe (as most will dismiss off the bat).
Either an order by mail (finger stick DIY) to test for jab damage or maybe something one could pay for out of pocket (Quest Lab walk-in, etc). Just an "idear".... people don't see the chickens have come home to roost!
I keep hearin' that people test "normal" by all conventional standards and tests (designed, of course, to test normal post-jab to get MDs to look elsewhere and not blame the jabs) SO a cleverly designed panel with stuff like d-dimer and troponin and whatever else makes sense---would be a great tool !
Troponin levels return to the base line eventually. But that is not the problem. Troponin T is a very specific marker of heart damage occurring after a heart attack or myocarditis.The problem is that damage to the heart is permanent. Cardiac muscle does not heal with cardiac muscle. It heals with scar tissue. Which is not as elastic as cardiac muscles and it cannot contract as efficiently as cardiac muscle does. Hence the prospect of death or a heart transplant in 50% of cases in five years.
Thanks! Got it. So what I and I'll bet some others are looking for too is intended for those who "believe" they have no symptoms but may indeed have injury detected via testing, a simple panel they can get that can show that the jabs they got are not inert / innocuous.
Many folks will not let others (well-meaning family, friends) send them documents or interviews that question their confidence in the jabs--even months out--but for some folks their own actual medical tests results showing damage (if such there be) may get them to come around (I think) as it's specific to them...not just "in general."
Perhaps Troponin is only good soon after the jab and not months out so other simple tests might be better (I know there are more complex ones too) to serve this particular purpose... sort of a custom red pill specific to each person
You can go to LabCorp and order quite a feew tests without a Dr. prescription. I did that to see my anitbody level. Now I am not6 sure if Troponin I or D-Dimer are available for self order but worth looking at.
TropT is a temporary marker. It does not stay in the body indefinitely. If you had the jab months ago you would not have a raised TropT level. Not unless you have developed chest pains recently. It simply would not show. And as for antibodies they don't stay around for ever either after an infection. If they did our blood would be thick as soup. And as for the D-Dimer if you have no symptoms of a recent clotting disorder is not going to be very accurate.
Thx! It would be worth knowing if these are tests one can get without an RX / just by walk-in--I may look into it for my "affected" family members--here in NY there are legalities that prevent one from walk-ins so it may be on a per-state-basis too.
This was DEFINITELY worth mentioning to my poor teenage/early twenties boys who insisted on getting the vaxx! All Pfizer(pfuck Pfizer), and my middle one had to take TWO boosters to enter UCLA the jerks! Those poor kids. NO MORE MADNESS!
Yup!
We need either three or four categories. We need to include people who have had covid and possibly a separate category for those who are vaccinated and has covid
American Vet, Thanks for being sincere and not just making an ad hominem attack on me. I’m often on the rude side in my comments as it is so obvious to me what is going on. You and I are really in full agreement I think. I’m still trying to wake people up when I think they are worth the attempt. I gave you a positive example but I confess my batting average isn’t great. A lifetime of brainwashing isn’t easily overcome. Sigh…
In relation to the Troponin level, DR.Hiroshi Arakawa, a Japanese scholar living in Italy, introduces a French scholar's paper 2022June25 on short-term myocarditis and pericarditis after vaccination.
In particular, inoculation vs. non-inoculation are distinguished in one week.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31401-5
Graphs that are easy to understand even for amateurs are posted.
We really want a long-term analysis, but it seems that the cause and effect relationship will be difficult.
I interpreted in the Nature study that the young unjabbed have a worse incidence of death if infected with covid & hospitalized. Doesn’t that counter most other data showing young people have almost NO RISK anyhow. Is this just another one of those fraudulent studies I wonder?? (Its early in the morning so it’s possible I didn’t interpret it 100% accurately.)
Here is what he(=Dr.Hiroshi Arakawa) says:Used Google Translator.→:::::
“The important point of this study is that we are looking at statistics from immediately after vaccination up to one week. In the previously introduced cohort study, the period up to 2 weeks after vaccination was treated as non-vaccination. In fact, short-term side effects due to vaccination are concentrated during this "magic two weeks" period. If this study also treats the "devil's two weeks" as unvaccinated, it will be concluded that unvaccinated people develop mysterious myocarditis, and that unvaccinated people develop more myocarditis than vaccinated people. Isn't it? In that case, it is also taken as a vicious fraud with a trick to include vaccinated people in unvaccinated. 』←:::::
The data is rather old and dated from May 12, 2021 to October 31, 2021. may be Wohan&δ-era. At that time and even now, the proportion of young people who die from infection is small, but it is not clear that young death is a side effect of jab or not.
Considering the situation of infection death among young people, I think this graph means that young people are more likely to die from Jab than from infection.I think the reason is that younger people have a stronger immune response than older people.
Even Pfizer's initial clinical trial data(at WohanEra) is a fraudulent practice of treating patients as unvaccinated for two weeks after vaccination.
This ensures that early(2weeks) side effects are ruled out.
Another acquaintance of mine died suddenly two days after being vaccinated, but I suspect he wasn't counted among the side effect deaths.
The fact that they(paper authors) were able to collect data from the French government, even if it was just a week shorter, is probably an improvement.
You and I would like to see data analysis from immediately after inoculation wouldn't you.
I'm going to have to stop looking at all these type of posts--it's getting worse than having to endure prescription drug advertisements on television. I have not been vaccinated, but I have my own problems. I have siblings, in-laws, and friends who have been vaccinated but have no issues that I know of.
Yes, but all the drug ads on tv list side effects including death and advise if you are pregnant, etc., etc.
I have never seen or heard of the side effects for the jab as it’s all censored and the medical professionals have been fired, silenced, and threatened. Despicable and evil.
Yes, that's true, so on this is and other substacks we are getting all the disclaimers and side effects and possible side effects, basically, not listed in a reassuring woman's voice or recited speedily, so the effect is the same as or worse than the commercials, which is my point., except one can more easily avoid reading on substack than being ambushed on TV. Has anyone studied the psychological and physical effect of being bombarded with all these commercials about disease and death or disability every day? After drug companies started Direct-to-Consumer advertising of prescription drugs in the mid to late 1980s, then humor columnist for the Miami Herald Dave Barry wrote a column in which he said, "These commercials tell you two things: You need this drug; This drug could kill you."
My best friend was just discharged from the ICU after a severe MI. One of his vein grafts (post CABG) developed a thrombus. What makes this bizarre is that during angioplasy the thrombus kept reforming despite constant 'removal' of the clot material. No plaque rupture so it's called an NSTEMI. However, the cardiologist HAS NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE WHERE THE THROMBUS KEPT GROWING AND REFILLING THE VESSEL. It's one for the books. This is, I believe, fallout from vaccine shedding and/or a previous COVID illness about two months earlier. This is some scary sh*t.
As an anesthesiologist I’ve seen countless thrombectomies done. Not one time did I ever see something like that.
And he was completely anticoagulated during the procedure.
I can’t explain it. Perhaps there is a cardiologist or cardiac surgeon reading this thread who can.
Here is a very unscientific statement perhaps, but, what if it has to do with the endothelial tissue or lining being damaged or gone due to spike proteins ravaging them? So the body detects a problem and only knows how to respond by persistent clotting? Please let us know here his progress. I am also wondering of a connection between what the embalmers are finding in those rubbery growths in veins after death? However, if those were present, they would be seen, I would think, during this medical procedure?
Following a train of thought, I recently read that the movie "The Blob", 1958, was originally going to be titled "The Glob", but that was changed to "The Blob" because "Glob" was used for some consumer product which they erroneously thought would prevent them from using it as the film title. They mean pretty much the same thing, but would "The Glob" have been a better title?
Although the surgeon said he had never seen this before, could he be covering it up as many in the medical field have been doing regarding “unusual adverse events”? Otherwise, this is just another “rare event”, never seen before oddity. Hmmmm!
Steve,
In 475 previous comments, this may have already come up, but a good study shows that high-sensitivity troponin T is best to use, and that the 99th percentile value is 16.8 ng/L (0.0168 ng/mL).
--PMID: 31786204
In contrast, in 9 myocarditis cases after COVID vaccine, the median hs-Troponin T was 700 ng/L (0.7 ng/mL) -- over 40 times the "upper limit of normal" (40 times the 99th percentile).
--PMC9419896
My med tech contact in a blood lab of a major hospital tells me that several of these things are way up. But partly because of $$$. They "pay out", as he says. Insurance companies cover them for almost anything. In his hospital they do them on about 75% of the emergency patients. But, he did say that they see higher levels now. They do not even "call them up" anymore. They just count on the nurses to catch them on the screen. He said they used to "call up" anything over 2 ng. Then the hospital changed it to 4 ng. Then the hospital instructed them not to "call up" any. They started ramping up about 5 years ago, but he did say that they went up higher in the last couple years. Same thing with lactic acid tests. They also "pay out" well $$$. They run them on about 50% of the emergency cases. (And they take more work; separate tube, on ice, etc.). This is not anecdotal. I know him very well. And he has been at the hospital for at least 25 years. D-Dimer tests shot up at the beginning of the pandemic. They are still higher than pre-pandemic levels. About 20% of emergency room in his hospital. Also, BNP's are up. He attributes some to the fact that his hospital is in a location with a high amount of seniors (congestive heart failure).
My 92 yo mom, with FOUR jabs, recently went to the ER for chest pain. her troponin level was over 3600! She s till refuses to believe that her beloved 'vaccines' are the cause of her problems.
"What I know is that some hospitals are now doing this on everyone and they are surprisingly high."
Who is "they" and what are they high on?
I get it 😜
"They" are the troponin tests- a cardiac marker of heart tissue damage- and the levels of troponin that are finding are high. Meaning cardiac tissue damage.
Dr. Gundry tested “inflammatory markers” - not troponin specifically but still problematic
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712
Very interesting,but not surprising.The narrative of the anti-humans will eventually come out...just a matter of time
If anyone has parents in Brookdale senior living. I think they are the second largest senior community in the US- be beware. I got a text from them regarding my parents. Not only are they pushing for a 5th mrna shot for their residents- but they are also mixing Pfizer and Moderna shots- which I think is tantamount to medical malpractice. Call them and protect your parents.
If you refuse the covid shot troponin becomes a non-issue Dr. Peter McCullough is the go-to expert when it comes to mrna shot heart damage and troponins.
I have seen way more non cardiac reactions to the mrna shots. Mainly clotting issues such as pulmonary embolisms, deep vein thrombosis. and ischemic strokes.
I think there was a physician in the Midwest that found that 70% of mrna jabbed had abnormal d-dimers within 3-4 days of the shot. This is not good news.
Early on, Dr Hoffe in Canada discovered and was vocal that 60% of his patients had high D Dimers. His building mysteriously burned down. Some say bc he exposed early on this issue with the jabs.
Dr. Hoffe has suffered much. He is a hero
Wow, flashback to the '90s when RCMP gathered evidence that Arizona and Arkansas State Prisons were selling AIDS/Hepatitis tainted blood products (drawn from prisoners) to Canada in the '80s.
The evidence warehouse mysteriously burned down in Canada and a prison doctor's house full of evidence in Arkansas - on the same night. Nothing ever came of it and in fact the whole thing is mostly scrubbed from the internet.
Sounds like a fine discovery... SO another worthy question is how long would the elevated troponin levels last post-jab? Just days? Or longer...?
IDEA--One way to PROVE to the jab-happy deluded folks that they are harmed is via any reliable medical tests (ideally low cost ones that aren't invasive). It would be great if there was a panel--like D-dimer, Troponin, a couple more things... In a perfect world folks would not have to test within days of gettin' jabbed--but something that would show up even months down the road.
People who see TEST RESULTS will be more convinced they are harmed than by all our jabbering because nobody (I know) will read anything sent their way...
Matter o' fact, even MORE ideal would be something'you don't need a doctor to prescribe (as most will dismiss off the bat).
Either an order by mail (finger stick DIY) to test for jab damage or maybe something one could pay for out of pocket (Quest Lab walk-in, etc). Just an "idear".... people don't see the chickens have come home to roost!
I keep hearin' that people test "normal" by all conventional standards and tests (designed, of course, to test normal post-jab to get MDs to look elsewhere and not blame the jabs) SO a cleverly designed panel with stuff like d-dimer and troponin and whatever else makes sense---would be a great tool !
Troponin levels return to the base line eventually. But that is not the problem. Troponin T is a very specific marker of heart damage occurring after a heart attack or myocarditis.The problem is that damage to the heart is permanent. Cardiac muscle does not heal with cardiac muscle. It heals with scar tissue. Which is not as elastic as cardiac muscles and it cannot contract as efficiently as cardiac muscle does. Hence the prospect of death or a heart transplant in 50% of cases in five years.
Thanks! Got it. So what I and I'll bet some others are looking for too is intended for those who "believe" they have no symptoms but may indeed have injury detected via testing, a simple panel they can get that can show that the jabs they got are not inert / innocuous.
Many folks will not let others (well-meaning family, friends) send them documents or interviews that question their confidence in the jabs--even months out--but for some folks their own actual medical tests results showing damage (if such there be) may get them to come around (I think) as it's specific to them...not just "in general."
Perhaps Troponin is only good soon after the jab and not months out so other simple tests might be better (I know there are more complex ones too) to serve this particular purpose... sort of a custom red pill specific to each person
My mom refuses to believe the jabs are the cause of her recent 3600 troponin level test.
You can go to LabCorp and order quite a feew tests without a Dr. prescription. I did that to see my anitbody level. Now I am not6 sure if Troponin I or D-Dimer are available for self order but worth looking at.
TropT is a temporary marker. It does not stay in the body indefinitely. If you had the jab months ago you would not have a raised TropT level. Not unless you have developed chest pains recently. It simply would not show. And as for antibodies they don't stay around for ever either after an infection. If they did our blood would be thick as soup. And as for the D-Dimer if you have no symptoms of a recent clotting disorder is not going to be very accurate.
Thx! It would be worth knowing if these are tests one can get without an RX / just by walk-in--I may look into it for my "affected" family members--here in NY there are legalities that prevent one from walk-ins so it may be on a per-state-basis too.