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ebear's avatar

Naive question perhaps, but is "long Covid" even real, or just another name for vaccine injury? How could you tell the difference?

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P. Kelley's avatar

Long COVID IS a thing. I am not vaxxed, and got COVID Jan 2022. Since I have several comorbidities, I already had Ivermectin on hand, and began it on Day one. Along with increasing the supplements that I was already taking - Zinc, vitamin C, D3, Quercetin...maybe one or two others(?) Also low dose aspirin, melatonin, hydrogen peroxide/ NS nebulizer treatments, mouthwash gargling, Xylitol nose spray. Despite comorbidities, 2 weeks after positive test, I was able to shop and cook for my oldest son's birthday dinner. However, when I went shopping, with the required mask, I found myself gasping for breath. Standing in line, hunched over my cart, trying to get enough air in. This was NOT an issue while I was sick. But it became an issue every time I put a mask on or went out into the cold. My pulmonologist had to put me on a twice/daily steroid inhaler medication. (I was able to discontinue it in July) I developed numbness in my toes which has since advanced to the ends of my feet connected to my toes. I developed pins and needles in my hands and lower arms, and a cold spot on the top of my left hand. That has mostly gone away. I have also developed significant calf, ankle, and foot pain.

I also have a relative who got COVID during the fall of 2020, so not vaccinated. She developed severe arthritic -like pain, swelling, and warmth in multiple joints after recovering from COVID. She was off from work for some time because she uses the computer, and her hands were red and swollen. About a year later, she was mostly recovered, except for pain and stiffness in her hands.

And BTW, I am a nurse. I got my problems fully worked up by the traditional medical folks. Besides the inhaler medication, they had no answers for me. Haven't used the FLCCC protocol because last time I checked it involved Prednisone, and as a diabetic, I really don't want to take Prednisone. I may have to eventually.

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ebear's avatar

As a nurse, I wonder if your symptoms post-recovery were a result of exposure to spike proteins being shed in your work place? It seems odd that you'd develop long covid symptoms having treated it early enough to keep it from becoming systemic.

Our experience was quite different. No vaccines, both my wife and I caught it about 6 months ago and knocked it down with IVM. We were taking vitamin D, Zn and green tea extract as well. Lasted about a week, not as bad as the flu. Slept a lot for three days. Both of us had vertigo, which was really annoying. No lingering effects to report. We're both in our 60's and smokers as well, plus carting a few extra pounds, but not obese. Different strain perhaps?

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P. Kelley's avatar

I haven't worked in nursing since 2007 (left to homeschool learning disabled sons), so no shedding of viral proteins. None of my family members are vaccinated, and my husband works from home. I currently can't work because of post concussion syndrome, and my husband does the majority of the grocery shopping. So unlikely exposure to spike proteins for me. The initial Omicron variant was prevalent when we all got sick. I don't smoke, rarely drink any alcohol, eat a healthy diet, and exercise regularly.

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ebear's avatar

Strange. You'd think it would affect us more since we're both smokers and kind of lazy. I'm out in the world as well, and have irregular hours (trucking). I read somewhere that blood type might play a role, but I haven't seen any data to support that. Not for want of looking either, I pay very close attention to what's going on, or at least try to.

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Jessie's avatar

Ebear

Just my own thoughts here on the subject. I think there are alot of vaccine injured people who have been diagnosed with longhaul as a way of explaining away their injuries from the clot shot.. I believe that for those who got the shots and are now sick, that the responsibility lies directly with the injected poison given them. My own experience however as a non vaccinated person is that longhaul is quite real in many of us that werent given early treatment. My family are all nonvaxxed and developed covid early on (early 2020). Two of us sailed through easily and two of us (who already had lung issues) suffered alot worse. After the FLCCC and many of these heroic Doctors came out with treatment (ivermectin, etc), we all started on ivermectin as a prophylactic and also for treatment when it hit us again. My lungs are much better after using Dr Mercolas nebulizing treatment with hydrogen peroxide and iodone but its taken me 2 years to completely heal. Early treatment is definitely the key. Ivermectin (as well as supplements, sun, etc) definitely helps in the healing process.

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ebear's avatar

My main concern is that vaccine injury will be gaslighted as long covid. Not denying long covid, which seems to go with lack of early treatment, so it progresses from respiratory to systemic, but what we're seeing now is almost certainly caused by the vaccines, at least the majority of it.

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Jessie's avatar

Yes...absolutely. There are huge cover-ups going on. They are going to do all they can to keep people from understanding where their injuries have really resulted from. The crazy thing is that people who are suspiciously developing heart issues, neurological issues, etc after the jabs aren't connecting the dots of why they are suddenly so ill. On one side of the family where most people had 4+ shots, 1 person had heart surgery, another suddenly got Parkinsons disease, and another has to walk with a walker. They are all healthy ( prior) and in their 60s. Crazy!

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J Galbory's avatar

Good question, I've been wondering myself. It seems to be a label stuck onto just about any malaise. The interviews with those who know or think they know haven't been convincing.

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