I don't think the vaccine should be used by anyone. He says the data doesn't support that. But he's agreed to have a discussion on camera and I'm looking forward to it.
Sorry to have dropped off the radar, PatriciaE and rjt. FINALLY had my bone marrow transplant on Jan 30, 2023. Recovering very well. Today was Day 70 of my 'new life'; 30 days until I'm released to home. It's been quite a roller coaster! My doctor is a by-the-book FDA/CDC disciple. Evusheld was no longer recommended, so didn't need it pre-transplant. But DR made me agree to the covid jab after the transplant, or he said wouldn't do it. The post-transplant 3 month covid jab is quickly approaching. I've been gathering relevant info and data for my 'argument', though I should NOT be forced. Printed Dr. Malone's post regarding Switzerland's ban. My DR's argument includes a fear factor - that "because your immune system is compromised, if you were to get covid, you could likely die. I've seen it happen". Am I wrong to think that covid is not the threat that it was, AND as you commented, rjt, like with monoclonal antibodies, shouldn't the jab be targeted to whatever variant is current? Not to mention that it's not a vaccine, it's been an experimental gene therapy 'opportunity' used for a variety of devious outcomes! I don't see how the spike protein in my body will enhance my immune system's natural recovery! PatriciaE - thanks so much for your support and the Chris Wark info. rjt - greatly appreciate your expertise, and I very much admire your willingness to let the door kick you in the ass on your way out. Hoping you've found other meaningful work! ALWAYS appreciate any input regarding my dilemma...THANK YOU!
Yay, I like Dr. Beene, he seems open to discussion on everything, if he thinks the vaccine is a good idea for some people, I wonder if he would consider a different option like an ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine protocol. If everyone had these meds in their pantry ready to go we all know Covid would have saved most peoples lives, maybe not all but at least 85%-90% if started in the first 5 days!
Would pay money to watch that test. I know what will happen to the person wearing the N95. As most of us know most masks are a total joke and it's all about compliance for the government.
At last some real science with open debate and testing. No more "disinformation" cancellations.
Dr. Been has been on the Big Pharma payroll ever since these bioweapons were released and has never looked at the real numbers of injuries we see in all cause deaths. He may but just stupid though, as both he and his sons have been vaxxed. I have a friend who quotes him all day long to defend his stupidity in getting double vaxxed very early after I had warned him of the dangers.
He needs to get onto a free speech site and search "Vaccine" every day and read all the real news about personal and clinical reports and studies that have been coming out for years. How does he not see these things when he also posts almost daily? Has he seen the Pfizer expose' at the European parliament this week?
I would ask Del Bigtree and his son to come along for the mask test and also show those who think they work their video with the CO2 level measurements along with the parents who tested their children's masks after a school day's wear and what diseases were found on them.
I love and respect Dr. Mobeen Sayed to the moon and back. He kept me sane starting in 2020 hosting discussions on his YT channel and he introduced me to the FLCCC. I found a FLCCC Dr who treated me back in August of 2021 for Delta when I was very sick. I used an FLCCC Dr again this past August for a short bout of an Omacron varient. I envy you being able to talk with Dr.Been. Reasoned discourse is alive and well with both of you being here on this crazy 🌎.
Yes, I'd love to watch the interview w Dr. Been (love him too). How do we get notified of the date and time of release and where to watch (Been's Youtube channel?) I've been waiting for ages to hear scientists discuss and debate, using data and specialty knowledge instead of personal attacks, both sides of several coins the last few years have tossed up in the air. To have both sides of those coins represented by scientists I trust equally is a wish come true. So double YES for the next discussion being with Peirre over masks.
Even if it does have benefits for the elderly... surely Novavax has more benefits and fewer risks for them? Unleashing gene infection technology on any population was a crime.
The Novavax clinical trial had almost double the incidence rate of neoplasms (tumors) in the vaccine group as the placebo group. This was in a study period of just THREE MONTHS.
Also, the randomized, double-blind clinical trial data don't support the conventional wisdom that mRNA vaccines save lives in the elderly.
In the Moderna clinical trial, the excess all-cause deaths with the vaccine (compared to placebo) were actually in the >65 age group, believe it or not. Among age >65, there were a total of 9 deaths in the vaccine group versus 6 deaths in the placebo group. https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2113017/suppl_file/nejmoa2113017_appendix.pdf - see page 53, Table S19
The Pfizer clinical trial also showed the same trends of excess all-cause vaccine deaths being concentrated among age >60, but they made it much more complicated to understand: https://www.fda.gov/media/152256/download. Page 71 (Table 32)
Depending on how big the control group and how many the tumors, that could be just a coincidence, within the limits of statistical error. Is the same found for the other vaccines? If so it means that the spike protein contributes to tumors. But I haven't heard much about COVID-19 causing cancer, considering you'd think they'd push that like crazy if it were. I even heard of an instance of COVID-19 making cancer go away by stimulating someone's immune system to fight the cancer better apparently. Or maybe vaccines in general contribute to tumor growth just by exhausting/preoccupying the immune system?
Interesting. According to the data those with the vaccine are significantly less likely to get a tooth infection.
Problem is, saying "it's not statistically significant" in this case essentially means that there is only perhaps 80% confidence of an increased tumor risk rather than 95% confidence. Not sure about you, but that definitely isn't comforting enough to me. Also note that the frequency of COVID death in the placebo group was 0.01%. I haven't seen the corresponding tumor or cancer incidence data from the mRNA vaccine trials, but it would be very useful to look at if/when it is released.
Supposedly, there are alarming trends in real-world data as far as cancer increases following the vaccine rollout, although clearly part of this is due to delayed diagnoses from people not going to the doctor: https://www.biznews.com/health/2022/10/18/cancer-covid-jabs. Many things seem to point to these spike-based vaccines greatly AMPLIFYING certain risks that are associated with the COVID virus (first cardiac problems, and now seemingly cancer as well). You raise an interesting question about vaccines- after seeing the Novavax results I had been wondering if protein-based vaccines in general increase cancer risk, but I haven't looked into that.
The bottom line is, I think ALL of the U.S. COVID vaccines fail the risk-benefit assessment at this point, for many reasons.
Well the numbers I saw for this do appear to be statistically significant. But so do the numbers for tooth infections. I wonder how the vaccine could do that. Would it reduce your appetite for sugar perhaps?
Anything's possible, also remember the strong links established between oral health/hygiene and COVID. There is likely to be a relationship there involving the vaccine's effect that might explain the tooth infections result
Thanks. I think emailing the ACIP members using the addresses in your last link, stating facts that they do not think we know, such as "the RCTs showed mRNA vaccines kill more than they save even in adults" and also "Novavax RCT showed almost a doubling of the risk of tumors" might be the best strategy.
I don't expect the CDC is fazed by anything though, the comments we can post on their site aren't truly public, are they?
Sorry to have dropped off the radar, PatriciaE and rjt. FINALLY had my bone marrow transplant on Jan 30, 2023. Recovering very well. Today was Day 70 of my 'new life'; 30 days until I'm released to home. It's been quite a roller coaster! My doctor is a by-the-book FDA/CDC disciple. Evusheld was no longer recommended, so didn't need it pre-transplant. But DR made me agree to the covid jab after the transplant, or he said wouldn't do it. The post-transplant 3 month covid jab is quickly approaching. I've been gathering relevant info and data for my 'argument', though I should NOT be forced. Printed Dr. Malone's post regarding Switzerland's ban. My DR's argument includes a fear factor - that "because your immune system is compromised, if you were to get covid, you could likely die. I've seen it happen". Am I wrong to think that covid is not the threat that it was, AND as you commented, rjt, like with monoclonal antibodies, shouldn't the jab be targeted to whatever variant is current? Not to mention that it's not a vaccine, it's been an experimental gene therapy 'opportunity' used for a variety of devious outcomes! I don't see how the spike protein in my body will enhance my immune system's natural recovery! PatriciaE - thanks so much for your support and the Chris Wark info. rjt - greatly appreciate your expertise, and I very much admire your willingness to let the door kick you in the ass on your way out. Hoping you've found other meaningful work! ALWAYS appreciate any input regarding my dilemma...THANK YOU!
Did this ever happen? Can't find it.
Please, YES!
Yay, I like Dr. Beene, he seems open to discussion on everything, if he thinks the vaccine is a good idea for some people, I wonder if he would consider a different option like an ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine protocol. If everyone had these meds in their pantry ready to go we all know Covid would have saved most peoples lives, maybe not all but at least 85%-90% if started in the first 5 days!
Yes! challenge Pierre Kory. But you are both hero's in my book!
Would pay money to watch that test. I know what will happen to the person wearing the N95. As most of us know most masks are a total joke and it's all about compliance for the government.
At last some real science with open debate and testing. No more "disinformation" cancellations.
Dr. Been has been on the Big Pharma payroll ever since these bioweapons were released and has never looked at the real numbers of injuries we see in all cause deaths. He may but just stupid though, as both he and his sons have been vaxxed. I have a friend who quotes him all day long to defend his stupidity in getting double vaxxed very early after I had warned him of the dangers.
He needs to get onto a free speech site and search "Vaccine" every day and read all the real news about personal and clinical reports and studies that have been coming out for years. How does he not see these things when he also posts almost daily? Has he seen the Pfizer expose' at the European parliament this week?
I would ask Del Bigtree and his son to come along for the mask test and also show those who think they work their video with the CO2 level measurements along with the parents who tested their children's masks after a school day's wear and what diseases were found on them.
Did he get the million dollars for talking it through with you!?! Or was that offer just for the NIH or the CDC or the WHO??!
Maybe he got the Million dollars from Pfizer
I love and respect Dr. Mobeen Sayed to the moon and back. He kept me sane starting in 2020 hosting discussions on his YT channel and he introduced me to the FLCCC. I found a FLCCC Dr who treated me back in August of 2021 for Delta when I was very sick. I used an FLCCC Dr again this past August for a short bout of an Omacron varient. I envy you being able to talk with Dr.Been. Reasoned discourse is alive and well with both of you being here on this crazy 🌎.
Yes, I'd love to watch the interview w Dr. Been (love him too). How do we get notified of the date and time of release and where to watch (Been's Youtube channel?) I've been waiting for ages to hear scientists discuss and debate, using data and specialty knowledge instead of personal attacks, both sides of several coins the last few years have tossed up in the air. To have both sides of those coins represented by scientists I trust equally is a wish come true. So double YES for the next discussion being with Peirre over masks.
The Real Anthony Fauci movie by Jeff Hayes has a bit on masks ineffectiveness
Yes!!!
Even if it does have benefits for the elderly... surely Novavax has more benefits and fewer risks for them? Unleashing gene infection technology on any population was a crime.
The Novavax clinical trial had almost double the incidence rate of neoplasms (tumors) in the vaccine group as the placebo group. This was in a study period of just THREE MONTHS.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2116185/suppl_file/nejmoa2116185_appendix.pdf - see page 48
Also, the randomized, double-blind clinical trial data don't support the conventional wisdom that mRNA vaccines save lives in the elderly.
In the Moderna clinical trial, the excess all-cause deaths with the vaccine (compared to placebo) were actually in the >65 age group, believe it or not. Among age >65, there were a total of 9 deaths in the vaccine group versus 6 deaths in the placebo group. https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2113017/suppl_file/nejmoa2113017_appendix.pdf - see page 53, Table S19
The Pfizer clinical trial also showed the same trends of excess all-cause vaccine deaths being concentrated among age >60, but they made it much more complicated to understand: https://www.fda.gov/media/152256/download. Page 71 (Table 32)
Depending on how big the control group and how many the tumors, that could be just a coincidence, within the limits of statistical error. Is the same found for the other vaccines? If so it means that the spike protein contributes to tumors. But I haven't heard much about COVID-19 causing cancer, considering you'd think they'd push that like crazy if it were. I even heard of an instance of COVID-19 making cancer go away by stimulating someone's immune system to fight the cancer better apparently. Or maybe vaccines in general contribute to tumor growth just by exhausting/preoccupying the immune system?
Interesting. According to the data those with the vaccine are significantly less likely to get a tooth infection.
Problem is, saying "it's not statistically significant" in this case essentially means that there is only perhaps 80% confidence of an increased tumor risk rather than 95% confidence. Not sure about you, but that definitely isn't comforting enough to me. Also note that the frequency of COVID death in the placebo group was 0.01%. I haven't seen the corresponding tumor or cancer incidence data from the mRNA vaccine trials, but it would be very useful to look at if/when it is released.
Supposedly, there are alarming trends in real-world data as far as cancer increases following the vaccine rollout, although clearly part of this is due to delayed diagnoses from people not going to the doctor: https://www.biznews.com/health/2022/10/18/cancer-covid-jabs. Many things seem to point to these spike-based vaccines greatly AMPLIFYING certain risks that are associated with the COVID virus (first cardiac problems, and now seemingly cancer as well). You raise an interesting question about vaccines- after seeing the Novavax results I had been wondering if protein-based vaccines in general increase cancer risk, but I haven't looked into that.
The bottom line is, I think ALL of the U.S. COVID vaccines fail the risk-benefit assessment at this point, for many reasons.
Well the numbers I saw for this do appear to be statistically significant. But so do the numbers for tooth infections. I wonder how the vaccine could do that. Would it reduce your appetite for sugar perhaps?
Anything's possible, also remember the strong links established between oral health/hygiene and COVID. There is likely to be a relationship there involving the vaccine's effect that might explain the tooth infections result
holy cow they're voting to add LNP jabs to the child schedule.
That's gonna be eventually a mass extinction event.
Why are we not talking about it???? ummm hello?!!!!
Damn this is what they have been waiting for.
After that YOU, THE ADULT, ARE NEXT.
If this passes, expect round 2 of mandates pretty soon.
PS. They are adding it to the "Adult schedule" too.
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https://twitter.com/IamBrookJackson/status/1582116638840610817?cxt=HHwWgoCjteus5_QrAAAA
WHO IS ORGANIZING THE PROTEST?
WE MUST STOP THIS VOTE!
COVID-19 VACCINE WILL BE ADDED TO THE CHILDHOOD IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE IN 2 DAYS IF WE DO NOT ACT
https://cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/agenda-archive/agenda-2022-10-19-20-508.pdf
What can we do to act? Definitely, if there's something we can do that might make a difference, we should
Thanks. I think emailing the ACIP members using the addresses in your last link, stating facts that they do not think we know, such as "the RCTs showed mRNA vaccines kill more than they save even in adults" and also "Novavax RCT showed almost a doubling of the risk of tumors" might be the best strategy.
I don't expect the CDC is fazed by anything though, the comments we can post on their site aren't truly public, are they?
Great! I wonder if he thinks the graphene, lipid nanoparticles, etc. are beneficial for some.
Steve you don’t back down which is great😊