Not that science will change anything, but people who think they are "saving lives" with vaccine mandates for kids to attend school are both delusional and anti-science.
YEAH and Kids are still banned from schools in NY, CA, MAINE & Connecticut if they aren’t v’d bc the parents had their religious exemptions taken away! But we have been paying school taxes since 2019 here in NY so OTHER kids could go to school! WITH this data Trump needs to overrule these states and really
all states parents should have the OPTION to v or NOT - no RE or Belief exemption needed just a parent making a decision for THEIR child’s body they created and care for!
CONgress is not stopping vaccine mandates because they are mostly CON-men and THIEVES! And i noted the paper was written in 2017!!!! Those KILLERS AT CDC AND FDA will be held to account for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!!! AND, they will lose EVERY CENT THEY HAVE...whether ill-gotten gains or not. Yes, Virginia--there IS JUSTICE and it is BEING SERVED HOT!
See "Medical Countermeasures and faked "public health emergencies" obviate informed consent." where Sasha Latypova proposes a legal strategy to get informed consent through the states instead of federal govt.
How on earth do we overcome herd mentality and the spell the majority of people are under. Vaccines good, anti-vaxers bad. Big pharma good, opposes bad. Science always right, opposers are anti-science. Etc.
I agree with this article, but how would you counter the argument that heard immunity from the majority vaccinated population is protecting the unvaxed children?
The documentary was phenomenal!! I've watched it twice. Thank God for the whole ICAN team.
Injuries and deaths from these jabs are criminal beyond. The sooner they're tried in court again, the better, perhaps beginning with antitrust violations, as cutting off people's options seems to induce a panic state of mind, and subsequent irrationality.
But this time make sure the criminals go behind bars.
What I'm specifically looking for is death from what they've been jabbed for.
Thus,
Completely unvaxxed deaths from pertussis vs vaxxed deaths from pertussis.
Here's my reasoning:
Why get a DPT shot if no one dies of DPT who is unvaxxed? Why MMR?
Etc.
If more children die of tetanus who were jabbed than unjabbed, then the parents will instantly see that jabs are useless for purpose, harmful, lethal, and therefore criminal.
I'm thinking of a European family in Canada- 4 generations now - who not only have never died from pertussis or any of those diseases, but who are robustly healthy, with exactly zero special needs children.
Add the subsequent injuries and deaths from the jabs that aren't even tetanus, as An Inconvenient Study has brilliantly done, and the makers and jab-pushers can be sent off to spend the rest of their lives in orange onesies.
are you really baffled, though? after what's happened to you? you've been treated like a pariah by media, politicians, colleagues.
anyone from congress who dares speak this publicly would be called an anti-science baby killer on a loop on every network for months leading up to midterms. it would be like giving their opponent $100 million in free advertising.
i know more people are questioning, but not enough to overcome the largest propaganda machine in the history of the world. it's a sad state that we're in and i don't have the answer.
Other than making profits on these apparently unsafe and unefficacious products, you wind up thinking that their other purpose is population reduction.
"We excluded children with complex chronic conditions, contraindications to vaccination, and deaths due to injuries, congenital anomalies, or diseases with onset prior to 19 months of age."
We now have evidence to reasonably assume that many of these are in actual fact caused by vaccination, so this exclusion is somewhat laughable, is it not?
I read a longer summary of the study and the authors seem to be spiking the football and saying that vaccines are safe because there’s no difference in mortality between the two groups so why wouldn’t you give kids vaccines? I would ask if there’s no difference in mortality then why would you give kids vaccines at all? Unfortunately, the authors did not study morbidity or short or long term side effects of vaccines between the two groups but the studies exist and they’re damning for vaccines.
Exactly. By the way, the difference in numbers of deaths (7 vs 11) between the groups was not statistically significant....although they excluded from selection some children and I'm curious if that was appropriate in some cases. Anyway, I'd be curious as to the causes of deaths between the two groups and what that might say about each group, but that information doesn't seem to be provided.
Perhaps the bigger problem is “compulsory education” funded by taxation without proper representation - as the methods used to hold elections aren’t terribly democratic (see MEVoting.com which I’m hoping to improve soon). Instead of kids attending public schools with huge numbers other kids - which is a breeding ground for disease - the tax money being collected to fund public education could be kept by parents to fund private education which would not be so crowded, plus the parents could choose a school with vaccination and curriculum policies they like. But undemocratic governments always want to brainwash the kids…
I disagree with the belief that schools are "breeding grounds for disease" any more than any other public place is. What you are suggesting is that lock-downs are an effective way to control disease and that the only way to remain healthy is to isolate oneself from the rest of the world. You are still believing the old school(no pun intended) story of contagion.
I didn't say "more than any other public place is," I think we should all be careful of being crowded in public places of any kind, especially if immunocompromised. I'm not for government-mandated lockdowns or mask use but I think numerous doctors in the medical freedom movement would agree that wearing an N95 in situations where you are not only likely to be exposed to pathogens but high doses of them, i.e. on a plane, might be a good idea for at least some people.
If you’re pro-vax, you should want informed consent.
If you’re anti-vax, you should want informed consent.
This should be the one topic we all agree on.
YEAH and Kids are still banned from schools in NY, CA, MAINE & Connecticut if they aren’t v’d bc the parents had their religious exemptions taken away! But we have been paying school taxes since 2019 here in NY so OTHER kids could go to school! WITH this data Trump needs to overrule these states and really
all states parents should have the OPTION to v or NOT - no RE or Belief exemption needed just a parent making a decision for THEIR child’s body they created and care for!
CONgress is not stopping vaccine mandates because they are mostly CON-men and THIEVES! And i noted the paper was written in 2017!!!! Those KILLERS AT CDC AND FDA will be held to account for their CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!!! AND, they will lose EVERY CENT THEY HAVE...whether ill-gotten gains or not. Yes, Virginia--there IS JUSTICE and it is BEING SERVED HOT!
See "Medical Countermeasures and faked "public health emergencies" obviate informed consent." where Sasha Latypova proposes a legal strategy to get informed consent through the states instead of federal govt.
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/medical-countermeasures-and-faked
How on earth do we overcome herd mentality and the spell the majority of people are under. Vaccines good, anti-vaxers bad. Big pharma good, opposes bad. Science always right, opposers are anti-science. Etc.
I think their "priest" (of the vaccine religion) has to tell them, or be exposed for the liar they are.
Midwestern Doctor is trying to do this exposure.
"The Century of Forgotten Vaccine Hot Lot Disasters"
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-century-of-forgotten-vaccine
"Vaccine Amnesia: How The Media Used To Cover Vaccine Disasters"
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/vaccine-amnesia-how-the-media-used
"How Vaccine Brain Injuries Were Rebranded and Swept Under the Rug"
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-vaccine-brain-injuries-were-rebranded
I agree with this article, but how would you counter the argument that heard immunity from the majority vaccinated population is protecting the unvaxed children?
As well, parents are compromising their children's health, both present and future, and quite possibility their very lives.
The documentary was phenomenal!! I've watched it twice. Thank God for the whole ICAN team.
Injuries and deaths from these jabs are criminal beyond. The sooner they're tried in court again, the better, perhaps beginning with antitrust violations, as cutting off people's options seems to induce a panic state of mind, and subsequent irrationality.
But this time make sure the criminals go behind bars.
What I'm specifically looking for is death from what they've been jabbed for.
Thus,
Completely unvaxxed deaths from pertussis vs vaxxed deaths from pertussis.
Here's my reasoning:
Why get a DPT shot if no one dies of DPT who is unvaxxed? Why MMR?
Etc.
If more children die of tetanus who were jabbed than unjabbed, then the parents will instantly see that jabs are useless for purpose, harmful, lethal, and therefore criminal.
I'm thinking of a European family in Canada- 4 generations now - who not only have never died from pertussis or any of those diseases, but who are robustly healthy, with exactly zero special needs children.
Add the subsequent injuries and deaths from the jabs that aren't even tetanus, as An Inconvenient Study has brilliantly done, and the makers and jab-pushers can be sent off to spend the rest of their lives in orange onesies.
Thank you, Steve Kirsch!!
Re: "I’m baffled why not a single member of Congress is pointing this out."
LOL
"...I’m baffled why not a single member of Congress is pointing this out...."
One should not expect service-to-others from the Club of Psychopathy.
Kids should be robust and virbrant, and full of joy and wonder.
are you really baffled, though? after what's happened to you? you've been treated like a pariah by media, politicians, colleagues.
anyone from congress who dares speak this publicly would be called an anti-science baby killer on a loop on every network for months leading up to midterms. it would be like giving their opponent $100 million in free advertising.
i know more people are questioning, but not enough to overcome the largest propaganda machine in the history of the world. it's a sad state that we're in and i don't have the answer.
Other than making profits on these apparently unsafe and unefficacious products, you wind up thinking that their other purpose is population reduction.
Simple logic.
"We excluded children with complex chronic conditions, contraindications to vaccination, and deaths due to injuries, congenital anomalies, or diseases with onset prior to 19 months of age."
We now have evidence to reasonably assume that many of these are in actual fact caused by vaccination, so this exclusion is somewhat laughable, is it not?
I read a longer summary of the study and the authors seem to be spiking the football and saying that vaccines are safe because there’s no difference in mortality between the two groups so why wouldn’t you give kids vaccines? I would ask if there’s no difference in mortality then why would you give kids vaccines at all? Unfortunately, the authors did not study morbidity or short or long term side effects of vaccines between the two groups but the studies exist and they’re damning for vaccines.
Yes. So rather than mortality, let's look at chronic illness between vax vs unvax. There the answer is clear.
Exactly. By the way, the difference in numbers of deaths (7 vs 11) between the groups was not statistically significant....although they excluded from selection some children and I'm curious if that was appropriate in some cases. Anyway, I'd be curious as to the causes of deaths between the two groups and what that might say about each group, but that information doesn't seem to be provided.
Perhaps the bigger problem is “compulsory education” funded by taxation without proper representation - as the methods used to hold elections aren’t terribly democratic (see MEVoting.com which I’m hoping to improve soon). Instead of kids attending public schools with huge numbers other kids - which is a breeding ground for disease - the tax money being collected to fund public education could be kept by parents to fund private education which would not be so crowded, plus the parents could choose a school with vaccination and curriculum policies they like. But undemocratic governments always want to brainwash the kids…
I disagree with the belief that schools are "breeding grounds for disease" any more than any other public place is. What you are suggesting is that lock-downs are an effective way to control disease and that the only way to remain healthy is to isolate oneself from the rest of the world. You are still believing the old school(no pun intended) story of contagion.
I didn't say "more than any other public place is," I think we should all be careful of being crowded in public places of any kind, especially if immunocompromised. I'm not for government-mandated lockdowns or mask use but I think numerous doctors in the medical freedom movement would agree that wearing an N95 in situations where you are not only likely to be exposed to pathogens but high doses of them, i.e. on a plane, might be a good idea for at least some people.
Thinking here is you never had 3 or 4 young kids attending daily schools of any type ...