Rapid-onset autism cases are relatively rare. These are the cases showing the temporal proximity. But most pediatric practices will have too few cases for them to notice the pattern!
So, it seems that the typical pediatrician practice has too few rapid-onset cases to notice a pattern.
I suggest that there may be too few cases because pediatricians adamantly refuse to make the connection and identify cases. This is understandable. A doctor acknowledging that he/she may have caused significant harm to children could open the litigation floodgates and/or badly damage their practice.
My son got an MMR injection at age 3 and became autistic within days. At that time, I had no reason to suspect vaccines of causing any harm and simply reported what I saw to his doctor. The doctor's immediate, knee-jerk reaction was to insist that the recent injection could not possibly have anything to do with the rapid deterioration in my son's condition.
Pediatricians take steps to assure that there are too few "cases".
Certainly the low frequency of occurrence can be one reader. But another big reason is that doctors are predisposed to believe that vac vaccines have no connection. So that is what they will see.
One would think that a single case of rapid onset Autism post-vaccination would at a minimum trigger a VAERS report.
Case should then be put out over pediatric message type boards..
State and National level conference CME lectures..
etc etc.
Unless pediatricians are willing to have serious discussions about vaccination role in Autism development, I have no interest in deep diving into the benefits from vaccination.
Pediatricians (Bigpharma) as a function of revenue preservation only discuss or study the benefit part of the equation. Thats not good informed consent practice or even standard of care. Rather, its protecting the litigation proof ROI business modus operandi afforded by the Vaccine Injury Law of 1986.
Informed consent trigger to act= benefit ÷ risk
If you make the risk 1 then the trigger to act is always pulled. The benefits always appear ficticiously greater than the risks.
Once the risk is equivalent or greater than the benefit then the informed consent trigger is = to or < 1 and no action should be taken.
End of discussion.
Pediatricians are aware. Theyre just unwilling to as-a-collective do whats right by the parents and their children.
Until such time, any pediatrician entrenched in the status quo "all benefit" group think should be avoided at all cost.
To follow on your post a bit. How does the child that gets a vaccine on day one and regresses to something resembling autism on day 3 get collected into a reporting system?
My first editorial comment is if we had a functioning pharmacovigilance system without the religion of vaccines, we would apply just a bit of logic and say the vaccine caused the autism. Conversely, we would have needed a boatload of evidence to convince us of the contrary. The nonsense hall of mirrors game we play now, is that vaccines are not the cause until we can study it blah blah blah. If you are away on vacation, and you hear that a tornado comes through your neighborhood. When you get back home you see that your house is gone. But you know you have to say that it was an alien craft that lasered a whole swath of homes. The tornado story has to be ignored.
But back to my question. How does this example I pose get collected into a place that anyone, much less a CDC employee can see that it should be watched? Where do all such cases get funneled so that anyone can look at them on a periodic basis on a place that does not require weeks of training to find? Where are the risk and benefits you reference put on public display?
I suspect the answer to each question is: no one really does, they just talk about doing it; and for the last two questions, no such report for public use is available.
I have rendered several hundred thousand diagnoses thus far in my career. If I see an uptick in a diagnosis either reportedly rare or rare to my case experience, then thats not a "safety signal", is a diagnostic blow horn attempting to garner the attention of my clinical colleagues.
The appearance of the mRNA therapeutics (I refuse to call them vaccines) has absofreakinlutely increased the number of cancer cases in abnormal patient demographics.
Is that causation?
Does the wordsmithing truly matter??
Difference between a major surgey and minor surgery is as follows: Minor is when its you. Major is when is me.
Its an old joke but goes to the heart of the issue.
Im highly trained. Have a massive amount of case experience and yet if I say... in a professional setting without substack landen hyperbole... that I am seeing alot of X diagnoses that I never see in a given patient population.. even if its a "case report" number of cases, then I absolutely convey my insights to my clinical colleagues.
After that it becomes an unableness to hear or unwillingness to see the clinical issue I have reported..
The fact that the valiant Mr. Kirsch is having to point out this obvious association shows how unscientific the US medical system is, and how the other countries of the world parrot the US orthodoxy because of all the money we spend (typically 2X per capita of other nations).
We have large HMO's like Kaiser here in California, that have millions of people enrolled, and have centralized databases. Just from the Kaiser data alone it would be enough to prove to any reasonable standard that this is a problem, but inside each of these HMO's who have the raw data, they refuse to study it, because this is a forbidden topic.
Vaccine harm has to be suppressed at all costs, because they don't want to harm the priesthood of medicine. Loyalty to the system trumps concern for the patient's wellbeing.
It is a perverse system. And it is bizarre that in countries like Brasil which has a completely nationalized healthcare system, this kind of study would have hundreds of millions of records, and the conclusions drawn would have tremendous statistical confidence attached. To a great extent, money is incompatible with healing and education, and both systems have become terribly corrupted.
The doctor who delivered me, the esteemed Dr. Bieler who wrote in 1965 "Food is your best medicine", observed that vaccinations backfired, but then he had a huge general practitioner practice and could see the results himself. Sadly GP's were phased out and the ability of doctors to see the long term consequences of various interventions has been eliminated.
There are plenty of other interventions that are suspect in my book, such as Gall Bladder removal surgery; everyone i know who has had the surgery suffers from so many ailments and restrictions later. They are doing 700k of those each year. They finally stopped doing tonsillectomies which was super common when i was kid (with the PR supposed benefit that you got ice cream to recover, what a sales job that was).
The medical organizations have in their databases enough info to avoid a lot of problems, but they move at a glacial pace and hundreds of thousands will be harmed by vaccines until they start following what the data shows.
How long did Thalidomide take to be withdrawn as an aid to pregnant women? 10 years? It took 12 years for Minamata disease take to get fixed (Methyl Mercury dumping in a Japanese village, and decades to taper off), Even when it is super obvious that problems are happening it takes the medical system a long time to course correct.
What has always made sense to me is the canary in the coal mine thing. Some people are always going to be more sensitive to certain exposures. For example, many people have seasonal allergies, while other people breathe the same pollen and are completely unaffected. Some people get migraines in the “sick building” while others feel just fine.
I think that vaccines are one triggering factor among many, and or in conjunction with other causes:
genetic mutations (a huge one being the MTHFR mutation, dr Amy Yaskows work shows upwards of 90 percent of fully autistic kids have the mutation ), exposures to pesticides, phthalates, heavy metals, PCBs, EMFs/radiation, air pollution, toxins in drinking water, glyphosate, emotional stress, etc)
MTHFR mutation and defects in the methylation cycle/pathways impair the ability to properly detoxify.
At the point where toxins and other exposures are accumulating more rapidly than the individual’s detoxification pathways can offload them, the individual is going to develop symptoms
And for susceptible individuals, any vaccine with its formaldehyde, aluminum, thimerosal, etc is the proverbial straw on the camels back that triggers sudden onset autism.
That’s the framework/conceptualization that makes sense to me, anyway.
First of all, a big fraction of the rapid onset autism cases occur on the same day or next day after the vaccines. Second of all, the parents of the rapid onset cases have been suggesting that it sure seems like the vaccines must have caused their child’s rapid onset, and the “do no harm” oath requires that a doctor follow up on hypotheses of possible harm. Given a question about whether the vaccines might have caused it, they have been answering “no, we’ve ruled that out”, but they didn’t actually rule that out. All they had to do was look at the other rapid onset cases in their own practice, and they would have noticed that, although not statistically significant, the data for their own patients supported that hypothesis. Then honoring their “do no harm” oath would require them to check with their colleagues in other practices, or have their professional society collect the data from enough clinics to verify that there was a statistically significant pattern. Finally, if millions in the MAHA movement understand that vaccines cause rapid onset autism, so should the doctors who are injecting healthy children with those vaccines. It’s their job to understand that, and if they don’t they should find another job.
If an electrician screws up the electrical wiring in the homes he services, he’s going to lose referrals. The same should be even more true for MDs. Please don’t make it sound like they’re not responsible for the results of their work.
" Research from Tufts University has identified specific behaviors in bull terriers with autism-like traits, such as explosive aggression, obsessive tendencies, and a state of tranced behavior.
Similarly, studies led by Kyoko Yoshida in Japan found that monkeys could also present autism-like deficits, notably in social adaptability and mirror neuron function, illustrating that such behaviors are not limited to dogs."
If obsessive tendencies and trance-like behavior are autism specific behaviors in dogs, every Border Collie I've ever had or trained, i.e. hundreds of them, are autistic as a breed. None of them were explosively aggressive, but otherwise the description fits. 😂
My local vet is all in on pet vaccination. I've been battling him about my decision not to over-vaccinate my Border Collies for 15+ years. He's a great vet, but every new vaccine that comes out, he's trying to sell me on it. I vaccinate to comply with local and state laws - period. My 3rd Border Collie from 2012 was a healthy, intelligent young male. He was an active agility trial dog and was as competitive as I've ever seen in 25 years of training. I got him his rabies and parvo vaccines required under local statute when he was 3yo and within a week, he'd developed 'Drunken Sailor's Syndrome.' The short description is it's a neurological disorder that disrupts balance and can cause dizziness, muscle weakness and partial paralysis, all of which my boy exhibits. It was like a prison sentence for him. After being a local star in the agility scene, he went from traveling and competing to a life on my living room floor. He's still healthy beyond that though. He's turning 14 in October and he still struggles through his daily walk but waits for it all day until I arrive home from work. It's bad enough for an active breed to be trapped indoors for most of his life, but when you literally can't leave him outside alone (as when he falls over, his weak back legs get trapped beneath him and he's stuck until someone helps him up), it's got to be a life of boredom and misery. We must find a mechanism to force Big Pharma to be held accountable for dangerous drugs pumped into our children and pets or the victims will still be suffering generations from now.
They won’t report. The vaccine bonus $$$ is what they depend on.
So, it seems that the typical pediatrician practice has too few rapid-onset cases to notice a pattern.
I suggest that there may be too few cases because pediatricians adamantly refuse to make the connection and identify cases. This is understandable. A doctor acknowledging that he/she may have caused significant harm to children could open the litigation floodgates and/or badly damage their practice.
My son got an MMR injection at age 3 and became autistic within days. At that time, I had no reason to suspect vaccines of causing any harm and simply reported what I saw to his doctor. The doctor's immediate, knee-jerk reaction was to insist that the recent injection could not possibly have anything to do with the rapid deterioration in my son's condition.
Pediatricians take steps to assure that there are too few "cases".
that too.
Certainly the low frequency of occurrence can be one reader. But another big reason is that doctors are predisposed to believe that vac vaccines have no connection. So that is what they will see.
correct
Unable to see or unwilling to see?
One would think that a single case of rapid onset Autism post-vaccination would at a minimum trigger a VAERS report.
Case should then be put out over pediatric message type boards..
State and National level conference CME lectures..
etc etc.
Unless pediatricians are willing to have serious discussions about vaccination role in Autism development, I have no interest in deep diving into the benefits from vaccination.
Pediatricians (Bigpharma) as a function of revenue preservation only discuss or study the benefit part of the equation. Thats not good informed consent practice or even standard of care. Rather, its protecting the litigation proof ROI business modus operandi afforded by the Vaccine Injury Law of 1986.
Informed consent trigger to act= benefit ÷ risk
If you make the risk 1 then the trigger to act is always pulled. The benefits always appear ficticiously greater than the risks.
Once the risk is equivalent or greater than the benefit then the informed consent trigger is = to or < 1 and no action should be taken.
End of discussion.
Pediatricians are aware. Theyre just unwilling to as-a-collective do whats right by the parents and their children.
Until such time, any pediatrician entrenched in the status quo "all benefit" group think should be avoided at all cost.
To follow on your post a bit. How does the child that gets a vaccine on day one and regresses to something resembling autism on day 3 get collected into a reporting system?
My first editorial comment is if we had a functioning pharmacovigilance system without the religion of vaccines, we would apply just a bit of logic and say the vaccine caused the autism. Conversely, we would have needed a boatload of evidence to convince us of the contrary. The nonsense hall of mirrors game we play now, is that vaccines are not the cause until we can study it blah blah blah. If you are away on vacation, and you hear that a tornado comes through your neighborhood. When you get back home you see that your house is gone. But you know you have to say that it was an alien craft that lasered a whole swath of homes. The tornado story has to be ignored.
But back to my question. How does this example I pose get collected into a place that anyone, much less a CDC employee can see that it should be watched? Where do all such cases get funneled so that anyone can look at them on a periodic basis on a place that does not require weeks of training to find? Where are the risk and benefits you reference put on public display?
I suspect the answer to each question is: no one really does, they just talk about doing it; and for the last two questions, no such report for public use is available.
I have rendered several hundred thousand diagnoses thus far in my career. If I see an uptick in a diagnosis either reportedly rare or rare to my case experience, then thats not a "safety signal", is a diagnostic blow horn attempting to garner the attention of my clinical colleagues.
The appearance of the mRNA therapeutics (I refuse to call them vaccines) has absofreakinlutely increased the number of cancer cases in abnormal patient demographics.
Is that causation?
Does the wordsmithing truly matter??
Difference between a major surgey and minor surgery is as follows: Minor is when its you. Major is when is me.
Its an old joke but goes to the heart of the issue.
Im highly trained. Have a massive amount of case experience and yet if I say... in a professional setting without substack landen hyperbole... that I am seeing alot of X diagnoses that I never see in a given patient population.. even if its a "case report" number of cases, then I absolutely convey my insights to my clinical colleagues.
After that it becomes an unableness to hear or unwillingness to see the clinical issue I have reported..
The fact that the valiant Mr. Kirsch is having to point out this obvious association shows how unscientific the US medical system is, and how the other countries of the world parrot the US orthodoxy because of all the money we spend (typically 2X per capita of other nations).
We have large HMO's like Kaiser here in California, that have millions of people enrolled, and have centralized databases. Just from the Kaiser data alone it would be enough to prove to any reasonable standard that this is a problem, but inside each of these HMO's who have the raw data, they refuse to study it, because this is a forbidden topic.
Vaccine harm has to be suppressed at all costs, because they don't want to harm the priesthood of medicine. Loyalty to the system trumps concern for the patient's wellbeing.
It is a perverse system. And it is bizarre that in countries like Brasil which has a completely nationalized healthcare system, this kind of study would have hundreds of millions of records, and the conclusions drawn would have tremendous statistical confidence attached. To a great extent, money is incompatible with healing and education, and both systems have become terribly corrupted.
The doctor who delivered me, the esteemed Dr. Bieler who wrote in 1965 "Food is your best medicine", observed that vaccinations backfired, but then he had a huge general practitioner practice and could see the results himself. Sadly GP's were phased out and the ability of doctors to see the long term consequences of various interventions has been eliminated.
There are plenty of other interventions that are suspect in my book, such as Gall Bladder removal surgery; everyone i know who has had the surgery suffers from so many ailments and restrictions later. They are doing 700k of those each year. They finally stopped doing tonsillectomies which was super common when i was kid (with the PR supposed benefit that you got ice cream to recover, what a sales job that was).
The medical organizations have in their databases enough info to avoid a lot of problems, but they move at a glacial pace and hundreds of thousands will be harmed by vaccines until they start following what the data shows.
How long did Thalidomide take to be withdrawn as an aid to pregnant women? 10 years? It took 12 years for Minamata disease take to get fixed (Methyl Mercury dumping in a Japanese village, and decades to taper off), Even when it is super obvious that problems are happening it takes the medical system a long time to course correct.
for autism you need the date of first PARENT observation. typically not in the medical records.
What has always made sense to me is the canary in the coal mine thing. Some people are always going to be more sensitive to certain exposures. For example, many people have seasonal allergies, while other people breathe the same pollen and are completely unaffected. Some people get migraines in the “sick building” while others feel just fine.
I think that vaccines are one triggering factor among many, and or in conjunction with other causes:
genetic mutations (a huge one being the MTHFR mutation, dr Amy Yaskows work shows upwards of 90 percent of fully autistic kids have the mutation ), exposures to pesticides, phthalates, heavy metals, PCBs, EMFs/radiation, air pollution, toxins in drinking water, glyphosate, emotional stress, etc)
MTHFR mutation and defects in the methylation cycle/pathways impair the ability to properly detoxify.
At the point where toxins and other exposures are accumulating more rapidly than the individual’s detoxification pathways can offload them, the individual is going to develop symptoms
And for susceptible individuals, any vaccine with its formaldehyde, aluminum, thimerosal, etc is the proverbial straw on the camels back that triggers sudden onset autism.
That’s the framework/conceptualization that makes sense to me, anyway.
I’m not buying this argument.
First of all, a big fraction of the rapid onset autism cases occur on the same day or next day after the vaccines. Second of all, the parents of the rapid onset cases have been suggesting that it sure seems like the vaccines must have caused their child’s rapid onset, and the “do no harm” oath requires that a doctor follow up on hypotheses of possible harm. Given a question about whether the vaccines might have caused it, they have been answering “no, we’ve ruled that out”, but they didn’t actually rule that out. All they had to do was look at the other rapid onset cases in their own practice, and they would have noticed that, although not statistically significant, the data for their own patients supported that hypothesis. Then honoring their “do no harm” oath would require them to check with their colleagues in other practices, or have their professional society collect the data from enough clinics to verify that there was a statistically significant pattern. Finally, if millions in the MAHA movement understand that vaccines cause rapid onset autism, so should the doctors who are injecting healthy children with those vaccines. It’s their job to understand that, and if they don’t they should find another job.
If an electrician screws up the electrical wiring in the homes he services, he’s going to lose referrals. The same should be even more true for MDs. Please don’t make it sound like they’re not responsible for the results of their work.
each has too few cases so they just reference the peer reviewed big studies and think they are an N=1
So ...on average each pediatrician may see about 2 cases per year. Here is the math.
About 116,000 per year.
Using:
3,628,934 births/year
~3.2% autism prevalence
3,628,934
×
0.032
≈
116,126
3,628,934×0.032≈116,126
So the implied total is roughly 115,000–117,000 children per birth-year cohort.
Thank goodness that you are calling out this very serious problem.
Just wondering why some kids become victims of vaccines and others don't ?
some part genetic susceptibility, some part injection technique, some part random chance.
Where is the autism in wild animals?
Found something about dogs and monkeys.
" Research from Tufts University has identified specific behaviors in bull terriers with autism-like traits, such as explosive aggression, obsessive tendencies, and a state of tranced behavior.
Similarly, studies led by Kyoko Yoshida in Japan found that monkeys could also present autism-like deficits, notably in social adaptability and mirror neuron function, illustrating that such behaviors are not limited to dogs."
https://www.advancedautism.com/post/can-animals-have-autism
If obsessive tendencies and trance-like behavior are autism specific behaviors in dogs, every Border Collie I've ever had or trained, i.e. hundreds of them, are autistic as a breed. None of them were explosively aggressive, but otherwise the description fits. 😂
Yes! Humans abusing animals with the jab.
My local vet is all in on pet vaccination. I've been battling him about my decision not to over-vaccinate my Border Collies for 15+ years. He's a great vet, but every new vaccine that comes out, he's trying to sell me on it. I vaccinate to comply with local and state laws - period. My 3rd Border Collie from 2012 was a healthy, intelligent young male. He was an active agility trial dog and was as competitive as I've ever seen in 25 years of training. I got him his rabies and parvo vaccines required under local statute when he was 3yo and within a week, he'd developed 'Drunken Sailor's Syndrome.' The short description is it's a neurological disorder that disrupts balance and can cause dizziness, muscle weakness and partial paralysis, all of which my boy exhibits. It was like a prison sentence for him. After being a local star in the agility scene, he went from traveling and competing to a life on my living room floor. He's still healthy beyond that though. He's turning 14 in October and he still struggles through his daily walk but waits for it all day until I arrive home from work. It's bad enough for an active breed to be trapped indoors for most of his life, but when you literally can't leave him outside alone (as when he falls over, his weak back legs get trapped beneath him and he's stuck until someone helps him up), it's got to be a life of boredom and misery. We must find a mechanism to force Big Pharma to be held accountable for dangerous drugs pumped into our children and pets or the victims will still be suffering generations from now.