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Seems a similar offer has been made by Dr. Vernon Coleman - with similar result.

https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/challenge-bbc-itv-and-sky

................... maybe a debate could be "staged" (as clearly no one has the cajones to engage with either of you). One side "pro", one "con", or some such. Just a thought.

Thanks for all you do !

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Steve Kirsch hasn't got what it takes to subject his contrarian views to peer-reviewed journals and scientific conferences so, instead, he wants to present them to members of the public who, I'm sorry, wouldn't have a clue how to judge his scientifically destitute ideas.

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The vaccines are doing a lot of damage.

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Hush now

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Another debate challenge. Will you back away and say it's "not worth your time" like you did on the last one?

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Why haven't you heard from Dr Zdogg MD???

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Their names as published (missing one):

Lorna Tychostup, MS: Senior Communications Consultant, NYU

Maddy Lewis, MPH: Infectious Disease Epidemiologist

Madelyn Pecyne, PA-C:Physician Assistant

Maike Neuhaus, PhD: Honorary Research Fellow, University of Queensland

Mallory Harris: PhD Student, Stanford University

Marcia Miller, MD: Physician

Maren Abromowitz, MSN: Family Nurse Practitioner

Maria Victoria Dreher Wentz, MSc: Science Communicator

Marie-Helene Lofland ANP-BC, CCRN, NEA: Nurse Practitioner

Mary Colasanto, PhD: Clinical Genomic Scientist

Mauricio Gonzales-Arias, MD: Attending Physician

Megan Hanley, NAR: Nursing Assistant

Melanie Evans Jakle, MSc: Research Scientist

Melissa Aswad, MPAS, PA-C: Physician Assistant

Merridee Lefner, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, University of Texas at San Antonio

Michael Aptman, MD: Professor, University of Miami School of Medicine

Michael LaFontaine, PhD: Professor of Medical Biochemistry, Marian University COM

Michael Lederman, MD: Professor of Medicine (Emeritus), Case Western Reserve University

Michael Natter, MD: Endocrinology Fellow

Michelle Krogsgaard, PhD: Associate Professor, New York University School of Medicine

Milene Vandal, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, University of Calgary

Mirella Salvatore, MD: Assistant Professor of Medicine, Weill Cornell Medicine

Miriam Merad, MD, PhD: Director, Precision Immunology Institute, Mount Sinai School of Medicine

Mirvat Termos, MPH: PhD Student

Moira Rashid, MD, MPH

Molly Nowels: PhD Candidate, Rutgers School of Public Health

Monique L. Smith, PhD: Assistant Professor of Neuroscience, University of San Diego

Morgan Freney: PhD Candidate, University of Queensland

Natalie Soto, MSc: Science Teacher

Natasha Bolotinsky, MD: Attending Physician

Navinder Jassil, MD: Endocrinologist

Neil Harrison, PhD: Professor, Columbia University

Nils-Petter Rudqvist, PhD: Assistant Professor

Nini Muñoz, PhD: Senior Design Engineer

Océane Sorel, DVM, PhD

Olivia Grant: PhD Student

Pascal S.C. Juang, MD: Physician, Former Chief Resident at Harvard Emergency Medicine

Paul Ian Cross, MSc, PhD: Clinical Research Consultant

Poorvi Desai, MD: Hematologist/Oncologist

Pushpendra Patel, MS, MD: Medical Student

Rachael Zemek, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, University of Western Australia

Rachel Aslanian, BSN

Rachel Mirabai Moore Troll, BSN, RN: Registered Nurse

Rashmi Advani, MD, DABOM: Gastroenterology Fellow, Stony Brook University Hospital

Rayna Sobieski, MD: Attending Physician

Renee Cavanagh, PsyD: Subject Matter Expert, DHA

Risa Hoshino, MD: Pediatrician

Robert Duff, PhD: Clinical Neuropsychologist

Robin Hills, MMSci, MSRCS: Instructor, Shoreline Community College

Roger Nattrass, MD: Anesthesiologist

Romy Blacklaw, RN, IPN: Registered Nurse

Roshni Rao, PhD: Director, Johns Hopkins University

Ruben Diaz, DNP, FNP-BC: Nurse Practitioner

Ryan Marino, MD: Assistant Professor, Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine

Sabina Vohra-Miller, MSc: DrPH Student

Sallie Permar, MD, PhD: Professor and Chair of Pediatrics, Weill Cornell Medicine

Samantha Yammine, PhD: Neuroscientist, University of Toronto

Samira Jeimy, MD, PhD, FRCPC: Program Director and Assistant Professor, Division of Clinical Immunology and Allergy, Western University

Sampril Banerjee, PhD, MStat: Associate Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine

Samuel Cohn, MD: Neurologist

Sandra Demaria, MD: Professor of Radiation Oncology and Pathology, Weill Cornell Medicine

Sara Gering, RN, BSN: Registered Nurse

Sara Pentlicky, MD, MPH: Chief, Division of Complex Family Planning

Sarah J McAnulty, PhD: Executive Director, Skype a Scientist, University of Connecticut

Sarah Perl, LCSW-R: Licensed Clinical Worker

Sasha Strul, MD: Pediatric Ophthalmologist and Strabismus Surgeon, University of Minnesota

Saskia Popescu, PhD, MPH, MA: Assistant Professor, George Mason University

Scott Fujimoto, DO: Assistant Professor, Loma Linda University

Sean Adwar, MD: Interventional Radiologist

Seth Trueger, MD, MPH, FACEP: Associate Professor of Emergency Medicine, Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine

Seth Turner, MD: Physician

Shari K Moore, DO: Resident Physician

Shauna O’Neal, CNM, FNP-C, RN, MSN: Registered Nurse

Shawn Carbonell, MD, PhD

Sheridan Nygard, MPH: Behavioral Health Case Manager, University of Minnesota Twin Cities

Shoshana Ungerleider, MD: Internal Medicine / Host, TED Health Podcast

Silvia Chiara Formenti, MD: Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine

Sindhu Sathyanarayana, MBBS: Physician

Siyamak Saleh, MD: Medical Doctor, Department of Health South Africa

Spencer R Scott, PhD

Staci Tanouye, MD: Staff Physician

Stacey De-Lin, MD: Associate Medical Director

Steve Rathje: PhD Candidate

Stuart Horowitz, PhD, MBA: President and CEO, Institution Insights, LLC

Susanna Harris, PhD

Sushmita Mukherjee, PhD: Associate Professor of Research, Weill Cornell Medicine

Sydney Vita, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Louisiana State University Health Sciences College

Tanya Lama, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, SUNY Stony Brook

Taylor Nichols, MD: Adjunct Assistant Clinical Professor, University of California San Francisco

Teagan Wall, PhD

Teresa Albernas, MSN: Nurse Practitioner

Terra Kater, MSN, AGNP-C: Nurse Practitioner

Tessa Cremer: MPH Student, University of Minnesota

Thierry Alquier, PhD: Associate Professor, University of Montreal

Timothy Caulfield: Professor, University of Alberta

Todd Wolynn, MD: Pediatrician

Troy Wood, PhD: Associate Professor, University at Buffalo

Tyler Kuhk, MN, ARNP, AGNP-C: Nurse Practitioner

Valentina Martinez Damonte, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Stanford University

Veronica Certeza, RN: Nurse Practitioner

Victor Ruthig, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Weill Cornell Medicine

Walter Ian Lipkin, MD: Professor, Columbia University

Wen H Shen, PhD: Associate Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine

Willem Hanekom, MBChB: Professor, University College London

William Giardino, PhD: Assistant Professor, Stanford University

William Hanage, PhD: Associate Professor, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Yasmin Mohseni, PhD

Yevgeniya Sergeyenko, MD, MPH: Medicine Fellow, Emory University School of Medicine

Zainab Tanvir, MS: PhD Student

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Thanks for posting the full list of those upstanding members of the community.

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You know Steve Kirsch has invited them all for a live debate? No takers...not all that "up" in the standing part, apparently. :)

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Hi Terry,

If you want a detailed and fully complete explanation of why the upstanding members of our community you listed above will not debate a contrarian like Steve Kirsch, here is a link:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/debate-me-bro-debate-challenges-by-science-deniers-in-the-age-of-covid-19/

The article it appropriately titled:

"Debate me Bro'", with subtitles such as "Come on debate me", "Come at me bro'". and "Debate me, you pile of human garbage".

It's very good, and a comprehensive put down of this type of strategy dating way back to the evolution wars where creationists regularly performed the same trick of trying to entice evolutionary biologists into public debates so as to give the creationists an air of legitimacy that they did not deserve.

Have a read. It will enlighten you about the tactics of contrarians like Steve Kirsch. They cannot persuade other scientists through the normal channels of peer-review, such as through scientific journals and scientific conferences where scientific ideas are far more effectively evaluated, so they go public.

And, of course, compared with the scientific community, members of the general public are really in no position to evaluate the value of his ideas because they do not have the necessary scientific skills to do so.

Anyway, have a read.

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I read it. It's garbage. Just one big lame excuse not to enter the debate because Malone and others would clearly win. You're brainwashed.

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If Robert Malone had science on his side, he wouldn't be putting his ideas direct to the members of the public, who have no idea how to assess the value of his ideas. He would go through scientific peer-review. That's where scientific ideas are tested and evaluated.

In the domain where his ideas are appropriately judged, they have failed. That really is the end of the story as far as science is concerned. He can pretty well say whatever he likes in the public sphere as long as he is careful to be interviewed only by those who wouldn't have a clue what questions to ask. Like Joe Rogan.

As far a science is concerned, Robert Malone has already lost.

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He sites many peer reviewed papers and uses critical thinking to come to reasonable conclusions. Would love to see you debate him. The evidence is way against you. The truth is coming out and you're not going to stop it.

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Here are their names as published. If we all pick one name I'm sure we can find several contact sources for each :)

Adriana Sosa, DO: Medical Resident

Adrianna Tseretopoulos, MBBS, MRCGP: Physician

Alexis Paulson, MSN, APRN: Nurse Practitioner

Alie Ward: Host/Science Correspondent, Ologies Podcast

Allison Myers, MD, MPH: Nurse Practitioner

Allison Neitzel, MD: Physician

Alyssa Fears, PhD, MPH&TM: Postdoctoral Fellow; University of Texas Medical Branch

Anand Swaminathan, MD, MPH: Assistant Professor of Emergency Medicine, St. Joseph’s Univ

Andrea Love, PhD: Immunologist/Microbiologist

Andrei Mayer, PhD: Assistant Professor, Federal University of Santa Catarina

Andrew Bauman, MD: Medical Faculty; Geisle School of Medicine at Dartmouth

Angela Lindsay, AGPCNP: Nurse Practitioner

Angharad Ames, MD: Chief Resident, University of California Riverside

Anita Patel, MD: Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, Childrens National Medical Center

Anna Stovall, PhD: Associate Medical Writer

April English, MPH: Science Correspondent, Unbiased Science Podcast

Arden Heath: Clinical Microbiology MS Student

AS Richards: Research Fellow, Science Communicator

Asher Williams, PhD: Presidential Postdoctoral Fellow, Cornell University

Ashim Ahuja, MD: Physician

Ashley Pacheco, MSN, APRN, FNP-BC: Nurse Practitioner

Atoosa Kourosh, MD, MPH: Clinical Faculty, Arkansas College of Osteopathic Medicine

Autumn Schuster, MSW, LCSW: Licensed Clinical Social Worker, University of California Irvine

Avisha NessAiver, MS: Chief Science Officer

Azad Gucwa, PhD, MT(ASCP): Assistant Professor; Farmingdale State College

Azizul Rehman, MD: Interventional Cardiologist

Azza Gadir, PhD: Immunologist

Baptiste Lacoste, PhD: Assistant Professor, University of Ottawa

Barry Jarvis, MD: Attending Physician

Ben Rein, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Stanford University

Benjamin Steinberg, PsyD: Psychologist

Bianca Patel, MD, MPH: Pediatrician

Blair Bentley, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, University of Massachusetts Amherst

Bnar Talabani, MBBCh: Clinical Nephrologist

Boris Tezak, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Duke University Medical Center

Breann Abernathy, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, University of Minnesota

Brianna Soreth, MA: Clinical Research Coordinator

Bridget Scallen, MS: Editor, Unbiased Science Podcast

Cara Grome, MD: Psychiatrist

Cara L Santa Maria, MS, MA: Psychotherapist, PhD Candidate, Cedars Sinai Medical Center

Carl Nathan, MD: Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine

Carrie Ingersoll-Wood: PhD Candidate, Syracuse University

Cassandre Gousse, BSN, RN: Registered Nurse

Chelsea Matos, MSN, FNP-C: Family Nurse Practitioner

Christian Capitini, MD: Associate Professor, University of Wisconsin-Madison

Christine Garvey, DVM: Associate Veterinarian

Christopher McMillan, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, The University of Queensland

Colleen Trecartin-Frost, DMD: Dentist

Courtney Kennedy, MS, PA-C: Physician Assistant

Crissi Stokes, DHSc: Professor

Crystal Pawula, MSN: Adult-Gerontology Primary Care Nurse Practitioner

Cydney Jardine, MPH: Epidemiological Researcher, Colorado State University

Daniel Anthony Barone, MD: Associate Professor of Clinical Neurology; Weill Cornell Medicine

Daniel Wilson, PhD: Analytical Scientist

Danielle Jones, MD, FACOG: Consultant

Danielle Levitt, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center

David Craig, MD: Emergency Medicine Physician

David Levine, MA: Writer/Researcher, Johns Hopkins University

David Stukus, MD: Professor of Pediatrics, Division of Allergy and Immunology, Nationwide Childrens Hospital and The Ohio State University College of Medicine

Dee Chohan, MBBChir, FACEM: Staff Specialist in Emergency Medicine

Divya Ramjee, MS: PhD Candidate, Adjunct Professor, American University

Dorothy Zahor, MS: Eastern Michigan University

Eden Maness, MA: Psychiatry Research Fellow, Harvard Medical School

Elisabeth Marnik, PhD: Assistant Professor of Molecular Biochemistry and Microbiology

Elissa Tremblay, MSN: Nurse Practitioner

Elizabeth Cebul, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow

Elizabeth Delery, PhD: Assistant Professor, Marian University

Elle Michel, LMFT: Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist

Emily Cheng, BSN, RN, CCRN-CSC: ICU Nurse

Emily Scott, RN, BSN: Registered Nurse

Emma Fite-Wassilak, MD: Family Physician

Eric Burnett, MD, MBS: Assistant Professor of Clinical Medicine

Eric Topol, MD: Professor and EVP, Scripps Research

Erica Wilson, PharmD, BCPS: Assistant Professor, Notre Dame of MD University SchoolPharmacy

Erin MacMillan, PA: Physician Associate

Esther Sandoval, MSc: Associate Professor, College of the Sequoias

Ethan Chapin, MD: Emergency Physician

Forrest Valkai: Masters Student, University of Tulsa

Flyne Anderson, RN, BSN: Registered Nurse

Francis Barany, PhD: Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine

Gabriel Evaristo, MD: Obstetrician-Gynecologist

Gabrielle Hood, MD: Staff Physician

Georgina Morley, PhD

Glen Pyle, PhD: Professor, University of Guelph

Gregory Baker, MD: Attending Anesthesiologist

Haley Amplo: Graduate Researcher, Rutgers University Newark

Hayley Dewey-Hagborg, MS: Associate Scientist

Heather Caslin, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Vanderbilt University

Heather Irobunda, MD: Attending Physician

Imogen R Coe, PhD: Professor, Ryerson University

Inna Kanevsky, PhD: Professor, San Diego Mesa College

Jaclyn Steinbach, BVetMed MRCVS: Head of Veterinary Translational Medicine

Jaclyn Usuriello, RN, BSN: Research Nurse

Jaclyn Wolfe: Senior Biochemist

James Bradac, PhD: Former Chief, Preclinical R&D, Division of Aids, NIAID, NIH

Jason Prystowsky, MD, MPH: Emergency Physician

Jen Gunter, MD: Physician

Jen Nossokoff, PA-C: Physician Assistant

Jena Hales, PhD: Associate Professor of Neuroscience, University of San Diego

Jenna Lizewski, DNP, FNP-C: Family Nurse Practitioner

Jenna Meyers, MSN, CPNP: Emergency Medicine Nurse Practitioner

Jennifer Hickey: Senior Research Associate

Jennifer Lincoln, MD: Attending Physician

Jennifer Wenzel, PhD: Assistant Professor, University of San Diego

Jessica Malaty Rivera, MS: Infectious Disease Epidemiology Research Fellow, Boston Children’s

Jessica Steier, DrPH: Public Health Scientist

Jessica Stokes-Parish, PhD, RN, MNurs: Assistant Professor of Medicine, Bond University

Jessie Brown, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, Columbia University

Jilyan Decker, MD: Resident Physician

Joan Chandra, MD: Instructor in Medicine, Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center

Johanna Hild, DO: Resident Physician

John Brownstein, PhD: Professor, Harvard Medical School

John P Moore, PhD: Professor of Microbiology and Immunology, Weill Cornell Medicine

Jonathan Alessi: MD/PhD Candidate

Jonathan Jarry, MSc: Science Correspondent, McGill University

Jonathan Laxton, MD, FRCPC: Assistant Professor of Medicine, University of Manitoba

Jonathan N Stea, PhD: Clinical Psychologist, Adjust Assistant Professor, University of Calgary

Joseph Osmundson, PhD: Clinical Assistant Professor, New York University

Joseph Zundell, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, University of Pennsylvania

Juan R Cubillos-Ruiz, PhD: Associate Professor of Immunology, Weill Cornell Medicine

Justin Trotter, PhD: Instructor, Stanford University

Justyna Kulpa, PhD: Senior Scientist

Kaitlyn Gooding, MD: Medical Resident

Karen Nguyen: Public Health Microbiologist, Cal State University Fullerton

Karen Tang, MD, MPH: Senior Physician

Karl Nadolsky, DO: Endocrinologist, Assistant Professor of Medicine, Michigan State University

Katie Ruschman, RN, BSN: Nurse

Katie Stiles, PhD: Assistant Professor of Research, Weill Cornell Medicine

Katrine L Wallace, PhD: Epidemiologist, Adjunct Assistant Professor, University of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health

Kayla A Nichols, PharmD: Clinical Pharmacy Specialist, Emory University

Kirsta Hoffman, MD: Physician

Korinne Bricker: COVID-19 Laboratory Supervisor

Kristen Watt, RPh: Pharmacist

Kristin Fontes, MD: Emergency Medicine Physician

Lace Riggs, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow; Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Lara Lambert, MD: Physician

Laur Rubino, PhD

Laura Dees, BSN, MS, APRN, CRNA

Laura Hlohinec, RN: Registered Nurse

Lauren Bello-Matricaria, MPH: Clinical Research Monitor

Laren Seserko, OTR/L

Leah Steinberg: Medical Student

Lexi Goldstein, MD: Medical Resident

Lia Griffiths, PsyD: Psychologist

Lindsey Shultz, MD: Public Health Advisor

Lisa Boone, PA-C: Physician Assistant

Lisle Winston, MD: Medical Resident

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excellent idea

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Has any of the MD’s taken up the challenge?

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Brought to you by Pfizer.

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They're all YELLOW!!! All talk. They would be cremated in a debate with you!

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When this entire sham settles I want a massive class-action lawsuit against Pfizer DOUBLE their entire gross sales revenues so these filthy criminals will go belly up permanently without a single rock to hide under and no subsidiaries or partnerships to collect a single dollar in revenues from...

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Yes we need to take all profits back from pfizer moderna etc. Otherwise, for them it was a success, and they will repeat it.

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Steve gives them the lie and the challenges are powerful evidence, and they make aholes like the 270 look ridiculous.

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Adele - Vaccinated audiences and crew only.

Also Adele - Show cancelled due to Covid.

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Now THAT is too funny!

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AND cancelled because they demanded that anyone attending must show proof of vaccination and take a test... apparently they had a very poor sale of tickets, which may be the real reason it was cancelled.

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I'd pay to NOT hear her.

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very very excited about this event, but should the date(January 28, 2021) be 2022?

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The "signatories" did not reveal how much they collected from Pharmafia. Here are a few:

ERIC JEFFREY TOPOL $3 million

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/physician/203831

TODD H WOLYNN $220,000

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/physician/397362

WALTER IAN LIPKIN $70,000

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/physician/8323130

CARL FRANCIS NATHAN $87,000

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/physician/1315155

CHRISTIAN M CAPITINI $150,000

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/physician/402235

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Nice 👍

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