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Alix Mayer's avatar

Steve, the 3rd reason for the low death statistics in VAERS is that the records are never - or very rarely - updated to show someone died later, after a serious AE is entered into VAERS. VAERS mainly contains temporal relationships between a vaccine and an AE. I haven’t run a report lately to see what percent of reports would qualify as “temporal” (based on vaccine date and AE onset date) but I believe it’s the majority. VAERS does not pick up latent effects from the vaccine - whether it’s a sudden cardiac arrest, an autoimmune disease, turbo cancer (I prefer “jancer” aka jab cancer,) allergies, asthma, or a delayed death.

Team Vaccine Safety suffered a big “L” Wednesday based on Dr. Meyer’s presentation of the VAERS data and the VSD data showing the Covid shots have neither morbidity nor mortality.

Everyone here knows that’s not true and that every other data set around the world shows the exact opposite. This is an absolute travesty, and every day that goes by I get more and more pissed off. The record must be officially corrected. NOW.

I’ll be reaching out personally to Bobby, Senator Johnson, Malone and anybody else I can think of who can help correct this record. This record must absolutely be set straight. NOW.

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Steve Kirsch's avatar

Correct!

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Jasmin Cardinal's avatar

ACIP meeting link, starts at around 2:48:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PnYYb_xj3U

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mejbcart's avatar

https://x.com/Donuncutschweiz/status/1941801398741749959

"Barry Young, IT-Administrator at Health New Zealand, found out: On ONE day Tag 99 People received the covid jab – within a YEAR, 36 of them were dead"

translated from German...

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John1200's avatar

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

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Grp Cpn Lionel Mandrake's avatar

You have great and wonderful guests, better than nearly anyone I know fighting the dark forces of humanity. Here's why your great work, and by extension most all of your guests, falls on either deaf ears or only a few ears. Talking about the ills of Big Pharma and people ignoring the now obvious numbers for greed, power and money (actually little new has been reported since 2021 when Michael Yeadon came out anti mRNA) will never resonate enough to make change. I know you are careful about what you say but if you want to be a factor for change you must say the G word, as Yeadon did back in 2021. If we don't tell the truth about the true motivations of the Global elite (maybe 10 people) we wont start the Revolution against the system we need and your great work will be forgotten. I am also of the opinion that Genocide is also the root cause of Net Zero and Chemtrails. Dots are easy to connect but we never talk about it because the thought of it all is so painful to consider.

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shaman54inPennsylvania's avatar

Need to get you as an advisor to one of the new members in order to attend these meetings so you can point out the BS that these bureaucrats are slinging. Sounds like the new ACIP appointees need some help!

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Carl Eric Scott's avatar

OT. Why Juneteenth is a Great American Novel, and why the nationalization of the Juneteenth holiday was a bad idea and needs to be repealed. https://dissidentcon.substack.com/p/juneteenth-the-great-american-novel

At the very end of it, there is a brief statement indicating why health freedom dissidents could have a lot to learn from those blacks who maintained a moderated patriotism for America, in the face of everything.

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Aegean's avatar

If they don't count a person as vaccinated until 14 days after the vax, then anyone who died from the vaccine during that period would be considered unvaccinated. So that introduces bias. I recall reading about the doctor in FL who very early in the program developed thrombocytopenia and died- I think within two weeks of being vaccinated. I remember the poor man seeing bruises while taking a shower. That was it for me. No vax. Maybe his death saved lives.

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David Robson's avatar

That guideline does not create a bias in VAERS because reports to VAERS are not constrained by it. It only causes bias in the reports made by health authorities regarding the number of deaths among the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

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Drop Stix's avatar

Profs Fenton and Neil exposed a whole bunch of what they term cheap tricks used throughout these covid years. They released a book called Fighting Goliath. It's on Amazon or you can download a PDF or audio book for just $10 here:

https://substack.com/inbox/post/166828708

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Serena's avatar

That group has their version of the truth. You and numerous others have your version of the truth. Gorging on confirmation bias prevents reaching the real truth.

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WayneBGood's avatar

"What is Truth?" asked Pontius Pilate and washed his hands.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

A lot of people were "vaccinated" in nursing homes, even on death's door. Those people accounted for a LARGE portion of the deaths. There isn't really a "healthy vaccinee" effect in that group. I think they aren't counting people as vaccinated until 14 days after the shot.

We saw that same effect in the Medicare and Medicaid database, when there wasn't the underreporting factor - the people seemed to be immortal for 14 days.

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David Robson's avatar

You are correct in questioning the claim of a Healthy Vaccinee Effect. The main reason for the misleading slide presented to ACIP is the VAERS Underreporting factor of 26. You can immediately see that if you multiply those histogram bars by 26 you get a ratio of more than one for vaccinee deaths to background deaths.

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Mercy's avatar

It’s hard for committees to see clearly through the fog of all that money. Even people not connected with the profit end of things were oddly susceptible to the hand waving. Terrence Tao mentioned the 95% efficacy on his blog during the crisis. In a positive way. His math is better than mine, but I do my own math for everything that concerns my family’s life.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to share all of this!

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Leslea Witter's avatar

I recently saw a video where Dr. McCullough said that they studied autopsies of people who died shortly after they got the vaxx, and it was confirmed that 73.9% of those deaths were caused by the vaxx. We need a statement from him.

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steve long's avatar

Why were the covid vaccines not outlawed at the first (new) ACIP meeting? Sorry, recommended to be outlawed, as ACIP only advises, does it not?

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Stephen's avatar

Dear Steve Kirsch,

I need an explanation , and I need it now:

How is it possible, on Gods green Earth, that every vaccine vile doesn't simply have a UPC code the Doctor freaking scans the code and types in the name and address of the person they are administering the vaccine to , and with that scan, the administered vaccine gets sent automatically to an impartial monitoring group; OK , now we know this person received this vaccine on this day.

And then the doctor also hands the patient a card with a QR code , they are instructed to keep this card in their wallet, and in the event of a death police scan the QR code and report the death to the same monitoring group.

The death let me say it again gets reported to an independent monitoring group not to vaers because Vaers is not independent ; we can't have the CDC, which is basically nothing more than a public relations firm for a pharmaceutical industry so allowing them to do the monitoring is insane.

The idea that all this the monitoring is left up to doctors that are not interested in taking the time to send it in or the conflict of interest with their connections to big pharma . It's it's ridiculous. It has to be automatic all this reporting has to be automatic and it's way too easy to do that. It must happen.

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David Robson's avatar

Your suggestion would only prevent manipulation of VAERS data for fatalities, but VAERS is not just for fatalities, it is also intended for detecting trends in non lethal adverse events. I consider VAERS to be potentially very useful, but the problem is that most doctors have either the time or the inclination to submit reports to it. Maybe if doctors were compensated for submitting reports the underreporting factor would be reduced by an order of magnitude.

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Jamie's avatar

Because then the proof would be there, and they would be caught, and can't jab us anymore. So, they stop any efforts like this.

it's important to consider historical documentation. Such as, this quote from Bertrand Russell's 1953 book 'The Impact of Science on Society':

“It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. but in his day this was an unattainable ideal: what he regarded as the best system in existence produced Karl Marx. In future such failures are not likely to occur where there is dictatorship.

Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so.”

- Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell, was a British philosopher, logician, mathematician, and public intellectual. He had influence on mathematics, logic, set theory, and various areas of analytic philosophy.

http://groupelavigne.free.fr/russell1953.pdf

https://archive.org/stream/TheImpactOfScienceOnSociety-B.Russell/TheImpactOfScienceOnSociety-B.Russell_djvu.txt

Vaccine Safety: Explained, and How To Explain It To Others

https://open.substack.com/pub/jamiea811023/p/vaccine-safety-explained-and-how?r=2mxnno&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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Stephen's avatar

When the corporation or the state has the desire to track us, then technology just works swimmingly - but when we wanna know what happens after someone gets a vaccine oh, it's all wishy-washy and the number of this and the numbers for that - for the love of God -

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Lisa Goodwin's avatar

Perhaps you could be a guest speaker on the next ACIP meeting Steve. Dr. Martin Kulldorff did say they welcome guests to present as Lyn Redwood did at the recent meeting. You could discuss how to manipulate stats to frame things in a "positive" light, or some such discussion, titled positively to get your presentation accepted of course.

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Jamie's avatar

Make a video explainer to go viral @Steve. Check them at every turn.

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Thomas Marsh's avatar

Was this the new or old ACIP committee folks…but if I hear you right…if they can not say the covid vac is safe and effective then it must be withdrawn from the market immediately by HHS. Simple question ….with a logically simple conclusion…..total removal immediately

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Drop Stix's avatar

New folks. that said, there's a whole bunch of other non-voting ACIP members that are carry-overs from the compromised and corrupted process. Aaron Siri brought this to our attention:

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/what-about-acips-non-voting-members

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