-Your article fails to define 'HVR (short term and long term)' meaning it's hard to fully evaluate your short argument for why we SHOULDN'T accept the notion that vaccinations were protective.
- your comment: "That’s part of the problem. If you get vaccinated, they know you exist. If you’re unvaccinated, they don’t know you exist until yo…
-Your article fails to define 'HVR (short term and long term)' meaning it's hard to fully evaluate your short argument for why we SHOULDN'T accept the notion that vaccinations were protective.
- your comment: "That’s part of the problem. If you get vaccinated, they know you exist. If you’re unvaccinated, they don’t know you exist until you die" : well, the data is not very useful if they are not counting 100% of the population from the beginning, that is, the 'unvaccinated' and the 'vaccinated' amount to 100% of the population. The group labeled 'unvaccinated' can't be 'either unvaccinated or we don't know'. It is also not clear if only certain age groups are represented in these tables. Adding to the complication is that, at least here in Germany, vaccines were basically only available to 'the old, sick, vulnerable, and those who HAVE to work to keep the system going' in early to mid 2021, meaning they would have higher mortality rates to begin with (most work to do under the worst conditions including more exposure to the infected!).
The notion that 100mcg of (moderna) vaccine had a worse outcome than 30mcg of pfizer vaccine is very plausible, doesn't say that the moderna vaccine was inherently more dangerous, only that the dose they were using was too high. Also bad of course!! I personally did not get the moderna vaccine after reading list of and percentage of side effects. I reluctantly took the biontec/pfizer age 53 as a healthy male for pragmatic reasons related to 'not being an outcast' not believing it would improve my health outcome.
My view is that the vaccines served their function of 'getting people back to work' because in Germany people were forced to accept the vaccine or face undue restrictions on their lives and ability to work. The wealthy could ride the whole thing out and also not get vaccinated and do well because they didn't have to work at all; everyone else did the dirty work. That's always true.
-Your article fails to define 'HVR (short term and long term)' meaning it's hard to fully evaluate your short argument for why we SHOULDN'T accept the notion that vaccinations were protective.
- your comment: "That’s part of the problem. If you get vaccinated, they know you exist. If you’re unvaccinated, they don’t know you exist until you die" : well, the data is not very useful if they are not counting 100% of the population from the beginning, that is, the 'unvaccinated' and the 'vaccinated' amount to 100% of the population. The group labeled 'unvaccinated' can't be 'either unvaccinated or we don't know'. It is also not clear if only certain age groups are represented in these tables. Adding to the complication is that, at least here in Germany, vaccines were basically only available to 'the old, sick, vulnerable, and those who HAVE to work to keep the system going' in early to mid 2021, meaning they would have higher mortality rates to begin with (most work to do under the worst conditions including more exposure to the infected!).
The notion that 100mcg of (moderna) vaccine had a worse outcome than 30mcg of pfizer vaccine is very plausible, doesn't say that the moderna vaccine was inherently more dangerous, only that the dose they were using was too high. Also bad of course!! I personally did not get the moderna vaccine after reading list of and percentage of side effects. I reluctantly took the biontec/pfizer age 53 as a healthy male for pragmatic reasons related to 'not being an outcast' not believing it would improve my health outcome.
My view is that the vaccines served their function of 'getting people back to work' because in Germany people were forced to accept the vaccine or face undue restrictions on their lives and ability to work. The wealthy could ride the whole thing out and also not get vaccinated and do well because they didn't have to work at all; everyone else did the dirty work. That's always true.