A personal message from the authors of Turtles All the Way Down
The message was sent to me, but it's such a great message, I wanted to share it with all of you.
If you haven’t seen the episode on my all-time-favorite vaccine book, Turtles All the Way Down already, you can watch it here (starting 30 minutes into the video):
Here’s the link on Amazon for the book. I got the paperback edition and heavily marked it up.
After the episode, here’s the message they sent to Nurse Angela of VSRF:
Dear Angela,
First, let me say that it took a few days, but finally all of us in the Turtles Team watched the fantastic discussion between Steve, Mary and Zoey last Thursday.
I was asked to express the heartfelt gratitude to Steve for the kind words he directed at us at the beginning of the discussion. Those were very powerful and some of us got quite emotional over them (especially those who watched it live). Steve really gets the book, and getting this high praise from him is very special for us.
So thank you Steve, a big thank you to all the people in VSRF that made this happen, and thank you Mary and Zoey.
I was really touched by receiving this message. The part they are talking about was at 38:10 into the video.
Follow up: How can we motivate more people to read the book? One way is to offer large monetary rewards for finding errors!
I’ve noted in the past that the hard part about the Turtles book is getting the 60% in the “persuadable middle” to read it.
One way is to offer a lucrative reward for anyone finding an error in the book.
For example, when you offer the book to your friends, they will invariably say, “That’s all complete junk… I refuse to read it!” In my case, it’s worse. I’ve been told I’m a complete nut job and it would be a waste of their time to talk to me about the data.
In fact, high tech entrepreneur Eric Hahn said something similar to me a few days ago. He offered, “If I told you the moon was made of swiss cheese, would you debate me about that?” I told him I respected him and if he felt that way I would absolutely be interested in hearing the evidence supporting his belief. He didn’t like my answer. He thought I would say “of course not!” Wrong.
But I digress…
People are going to give you all sorts of reasons for not wanting to read the book. So here’s my idea…
First, you whip out your audio and video recorder and capture the moment.
Then you say, “The book is only 500 pages long. How about if I pay you $1,000 for every page that you can find at least one error on? If you’re right about it being junk, you’d get $500,000 just for reading a single book which will take you less than a day. Would that motivate you? $500K for a day’s work?”
They can’t say they don’t have the time. The average person reads 40 pages per hour for non-technical information. So unless they make $40,000 per hour in their day job, they should jump on it. IMMEDIATELY.
The only real difficulty is finding a neutral arbiter for disputes that the reader will fully trust. Any ideas on that (compare with the method rootclaim uses)?
If you find an error and the authors agree with you, you win $100.
If the authors don’t agree, then the stakes rise.
If you want to dispute the authors rejection, you put a $1,000 per error deposit up. If you lose the dispute, you lose the $1,000. If you win, you instantly double your money.
A similar technique is used by rootclaim. See their offer and the rootclaim $100K challenge. The mechanics were published here.
Due to the negotiation overhead to set everything up, I’d be happy to consider doing a $25,000 (or more) minimum wager based on 25 or fewer error claims. This means you can win $25,000 for finding just a single error in the book. So even if you find just one error, it’s worthwhile to read the entire book (if you earn less than $25,000 a day).
I’ll provide the funding backing the book’s authors claims, but on any challenge we’ll open it up to my paid subscribers on Substack to participate and instantly double their money when we win. I would love to reward my readers who want to participate. I suspect we would get a lot of reader engagement on this.
The fine print
Only substantive errors could. So a typo. spelling error, or something with no consequence doesn’t count. If the book said “Masks protect people 100% from COVID” that would qualify as a mistake.
We’ll only pay out once per error to the first person who reports the error.
Summary
Let me know what you think of this idea to motivate people to read the book?
I don’t like the tactic of offering money. I think it detracts from the gravity of the issue we face. Appealing to people’s baser instincts doesn’t work that well IMO. From my experience, they view themselves as having made sacrifices to save society and resent those who haven't.
Over twenty years of values I instilled have been obliterated in two. In my family, it’s like living with Hitler youth. How do you get through to that?
My daughters all supported the lockdowns and the mandates. My eldest told me if I brought up the subject of vaccines again, she’d have to consider never speaking to me again.
This is what I got from her recently when I tried to discuss the bivalvent she intends to take:
“Please, please don’t do this to me”.
A few months ago, I was asked if I was vaccinated by the child of a new neighbour. I resisted the urge to tell him to mind his own business and said gently that I’d looked into it and I was certain it was a therapy just for the person who had it.
My youngest daughter overheard the conversation and later texted to say she’d heard me being “annoying” to the neighbours and it was the reason she’d moved out (She’s back recently because of the high prices, a result of the policies she supported.)
My daughters haven’t personally seen any injuries or death so to them, I’m the immoral one. My view is that the best strategy is to Increase pressure on doctors to publicly speak out. I’ve mentioned here before that my husband has contacts in cardiology and endocrinology in this city who are worried about what they’re seeing but keeping quiet to save their jobs.
I’ve heard from three separate sources that children are being hospitalized at Monash after the shots. The staff don’t deny causation. One doctor I know of is worried but still supports the jabs because the children are “OK after three months”. Really? Has she seen any MRIs? Are they discharged on medication?
I’ve spoken to four GPs and one pediatrician in Melbourne. None of them had read the original clinical trials because basic facts (such as more deaths in the pfizer treatment group) come as a surprise to them.
Before I travelled to Europe, I went to my GP to get a letter saying I’d recovered from covid. I told her if I got a shot of antibodies, I risked a hyperinflammatory response and death and I asked if she thought that could be the reason people were DROPPING DEAD from myocarditis after vaccination, as reported at a press conference by the Queensland Chief Health Officer.
She paused to consider if it could be MIS with high troponin levels and as I’ve written here before, when she was checking my phone for the text from the health department, I said: “I can’t believe how hard I have to fight not to have a drug that’s KILLING so many people”. She looked up at me and said nothing.
They’re aware of insanity but they don’t see themselves as part of it.This is from my elderly mother in the UK:
“I’m convinced the world has gone stark raving mad”.
I said, “I agree. Children in the UK were given an experimental therapy to enable them to go back to school”.
She said, “Oh,that’s not insane. You have to realize that if children couldn’t go back to school, it would have damaged the economy”.
I sent her a link to Neil Oliver's monologues. She emailed back, “That ordinary man makes a lot of sense”. I told her he was openly calling us stupid (“Hey, government we’re not stupid”) and deeply immoral (“a wall of children for a few grown ups to cower behind”)
The problem is it runs very deep. We’ve been groomed to see a substandard as normal becoming abuse over a long time. Centuries. These past three years, I'd say the psychological model is the ultimate dysfunctional family - Munchausen by proxy.
At what point does the most dysfunctional family sit down together and openly admit the wrongness of what it’s doing? I’d say if that’s going to happen at all, the catalyst would be when the youngest member dies. Too many children have already died and I hope Twitter can now be a way to raise awareness of that. Doctors need to speak out publicly. If enough do, parents will too.
Edit: I've edited to respond to a criticism below. I think appealing to baser instincts is wrong because if there's no genuine remorse, we're doomed to repeat. That remorse needs to come from doctors. Take the damage done by the lie that saturated fat is bad for us, that's left the population deficient in fat soluble vitamins A and D, which are partners and should be high normal. How many bought into a total myth? Where's the mea culpa from mainstream medicine?
At your suggestion I read the book recently while looking for references on a recent article. It doesn't cover everything that needs to be covered because there's too much to go into in one book, but it does a very good job on where it does focus.
That article ended up being one of the most popular ones I've written here (it was a breakdown on how and why vaccines never end up creating herd immunity): https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/why-do-vaccines-consistently-fail