Sounds like somebody needs to do some reading about antibody dependent enhancement. It's a little bit beyond the secondary school student level knowledge you teach, no doubt, but Robert Malone has given multiple interviews explaining it in easy to understand terms. If Joe Rogan can understand this, I'm sure you'll be able to get there if you persist.
Sounds like somebody needs to do some reading about antibody dependent enhancement. It's a little bit beyond the secondary school student level knowledge you teach, no doubt, but Robert Malone has given multiple interviews explaining it in easy to understand terms. If Joe Rogan can understand this, I'm sure you'll be able to get there if you persist.
Joe rogan doesn't know real science, nor the history, but of course, he could learn it - any 5th grader can grasp plenty of ideas and concepts. The history of pandemics and vaccines have had cases where the vaccine created, we think, the actual viral or bacterial infection. With polio we had a vaccine that "they thought" was actually giving people Polio - and they pulled that particular vaccine.
The thing is this - These vaccines don't have the virus in them - so they can't give you the virus. That's the part that Malone et al don't grasp. Vaccines have ingredients in them that can do harm, lethal even - especially with matters of the heart, cardiac issues - but not covid. You can't get covid from a covid vaccine, because covid itself is not in the vaccine.
It's not that "they thought" that the polio vaccine was giving people polio BTW. It happened. I nursed a woman in ICU who got polio from changing the nappy of her baby who'd just had the polio vaccine. She was on a ventilator for months, paralyzed from the neck down. In the end we discharged her to a rest home, aged 30, on a ventilator to essentially wait until she got a chest infection and died. Never able to touch her child ever again. It's not "they thought", it happened. It was about 30 years ago, back when New Zealand still used the oral polio vaccine.
Don't put so much stock into what they say happened 75 years ago. Again, if the vaccine doesn't have the live virus or live bacteria in it, you can't get virally or bacterially infected. It's as fundamentally as simple as that. That said, they have played with pathogens over the years and offered up myriad modified forms of the antigens - is it possible a live strain fell through the cracks. Okay, but just know that only a live strain can do this.
I'm sure that you know way more about this topic than Robert Malone, the developer of mRNA technology. Teaching high school biology certainly fits you much better to understand all of this (not to mention the hierarchy of medical knowledge etc) than being a medical doctor who has specialized in vaccine research and has a track record of making accurate predictions about this.
Does it occur to you that it is possibly you who is failing to understand as opposed to Rober Malone, MD, Pierre Kory MD (who halved the covid ICU mortality rate by pioneering he use of corticosteroids, but hey, I'm sure that's nothing next to your contribution to advancing medical science)?
Sounds like somebody still needs to read about antibody dependent enhancement, and perhaps get some humility.
Lilith, what you may or may not know, is that the mRNA molecule is hands down one of the most fragile molecules in the science universe. Robert Malone knows this too. All those who work with mRNA know this. Be it lab made or organic, as an exogenous entity it is useless. All the lipid nanoparticles in the world can't protect it. And still, it is not covid so it can't give you covid.
Sounds like somebody needs to do some reading about antibody dependent enhancement. It's a little bit beyond the secondary school student level knowledge you teach, no doubt, but Robert Malone has given multiple interviews explaining it in easy to understand terms. If Joe Rogan can understand this, I'm sure you'll be able to get there if you persist.
Joe rogan doesn't know real science, nor the history, but of course, he could learn it - any 5th grader can grasp plenty of ideas and concepts. The history of pandemics and vaccines have had cases where the vaccine created, we think, the actual viral or bacterial infection. With polio we had a vaccine that "they thought" was actually giving people Polio - and they pulled that particular vaccine.
The thing is this - These vaccines don't have the virus in them - so they can't give you the virus. That's the part that Malone et al don't grasp. Vaccines have ingredients in them that can do harm, lethal even - especially with matters of the heart, cardiac issues - but not covid. You can't get covid from a covid vaccine, because covid itself is not in the vaccine.
It's not that "they thought" that the polio vaccine was giving people polio BTW. It happened. I nursed a woman in ICU who got polio from changing the nappy of her baby who'd just had the polio vaccine. She was on a ventilator for months, paralyzed from the neck down. In the end we discharged her to a rest home, aged 30, on a ventilator to essentially wait until she got a chest infection and died. Never able to touch her child ever again. It's not "they thought", it happened. It was about 30 years ago, back when New Zealand still used the oral polio vaccine.
Don't put so much stock into what they say happened 75 years ago. Again, if the vaccine doesn't have the live virus or live bacteria in it, you can't get virally or bacterially infected. It's as fundamentally as simple as that. That said, they have played with pathogens over the years and offered up myriad modified forms of the antigens - is it possible a live strain fell through the cracks. Okay, but just know that only a live strain can do this.
I'm sure that you know way more about this topic than Robert Malone, the developer of mRNA technology. Teaching high school biology certainly fits you much better to understand all of this (not to mention the hierarchy of medical knowledge etc) than being a medical doctor who has specialized in vaccine research and has a track record of making accurate predictions about this.
Does it occur to you that it is possibly you who is failing to understand as opposed to Rober Malone, MD, Pierre Kory MD (who halved the covid ICU mortality rate by pioneering he use of corticosteroids, but hey, I'm sure that's nothing next to your contribution to advancing medical science)?
Sounds like somebody still needs to read about antibody dependent enhancement, and perhaps get some humility.
Lilith, what you may or may not know, is that the mRNA molecule is hands down one of the most fragile molecules in the science universe. Robert Malone knows this too. All those who work with mRNA know this. Be it lab made or organic, as an exogenous entity it is useless. All the lipid nanoparticles in the world can't protect it. And still, it is not covid so it can't give you covid.