There is a lot of studies available that say just this. And a lot of people working in general practice who have this as an anecdotal experience. I'm not sure what your beef is or why you think saying this is a problem.
There is a lot of studies available that say just this. And a lot of people working in general practice who have this as an anecdotal experience. I'm not sure what your beef is or why you think saying this is a problem.
Anecdotal is not science. We can employ and consider some things, certain patterns, but these must remain secondary or tertiary etc. Because again, there are billions who got jabbed and jabbed again, who are fine.
I don't think you quite understand what science is. In medicine we have a hierarchy of what counts as scientific evidence. Expert opinion/experience is the bottom of that triangle. So, yes, anecdotal evidence can be science. In medicine we call it a case study.
The top is metanalysis of multiple randomized double blind trials that don't have conflicts of interest. There are now multiple studies that support DSK's point that people who are "up to date" on their covid vax are more likely to get covid and get sicker with it than those who are unvaxed or "not up to date".
I teach chemistry and biology. RCTs are hands down worst way to do science. RCTs are the gold standard for many, but a few of us know just how inherently flawed they are.
Getting vaxxed will not give you covid. The only argument one could make is that being vaxxed and boosted 17 times gives one false confidence - and then they think they can exist in a viral environment without a mask, or not sanitizing etc.
Sounds like somebody needs to do some reading about antibody dependent enhancement. It's a little bit beyond the secondary school student level knowledge you teach, no doubt, but Robert Malone has given multiple interviews explaining it in easy to understand terms. If Joe Rogan can understand this, I'm sure you'll be able to get there if you persist.
Joe rogan doesn't know real science, nor the history, but of course, he could learn it - any 5th grader can grasp plenty of ideas and concepts. The history of pandemics and vaccines have had cases where the vaccine created, we think, the actual viral or bacterial infection. With polio we had a vaccine that "they thought" was actually giving people Polio - and they pulled that particular vaccine.
The thing is this - These vaccines don't have the virus in them - so they can't give you the virus. That's the part that Malone et al don't grasp. Vaccines have ingredients in them that can do harm, lethal even - especially with matters of the heart, cardiac issues - but not covid. You can't get covid from a covid vaccine, because covid itself is not in the vaccine.
It's not that "they thought" that the polio vaccine was giving people polio BTW. It happened. I nursed a woman in ICU who got polio from changing the nappy of her baby who'd just had the polio vaccine. She was on a ventilator for months, paralyzed from the neck down. In the end we discharged her to a rest home, aged 30, on a ventilator to essentially wait until she got a chest infection and died. Never able to touch her child ever again. It's not "they thought", it happened. It was about 30 years ago, back when New Zealand still used the oral polio vaccine.
I'm sure that you know way more about this topic than Robert Malone, the developer of mRNA technology. Teaching high school biology certainly fits you much better to understand all of this (not to mention the hierarchy of medical knowledge etc) than being a medical doctor who has specialized in vaccine research and has a track record of making accurate predictions about this.
Does it occur to you that it is possibly you who is failing to understand as opposed to Rober Malone, MD, Pierre Kory MD (who halved the covid ICU mortality rate by pioneering he use of corticosteroids, but hey, I'm sure that's nothing next to your contribution to advancing medical science)?
Sounds like somebody still needs to read about antibody dependent enhancement, and perhaps get some humility.
The San people of Africa, the Australian Aboriginies and the Native Americans for example might not have had " Science", but boy have they always relied on " anecdotes" passed down the generations for survival. If you failed to learn the anecdotes you were gone very soon, taking your genetics with you. And remember, every single one of us descends from some or other land based people. So we all have that wisdom in us if we would just slow down and use our senses. Science has its place, but we need to balance that with wise observation.
There is a lot of studies available that say just this. And a lot of people working in general practice who have this as an anecdotal experience. I'm not sure what your beef is or why you think saying this is a problem.
Anecdotal is not science. We can employ and consider some things, certain patterns, but these must remain secondary or tertiary etc. Because again, there are billions who got jabbed and jabbed again, who are fine.
I don't think you quite understand what science is. In medicine we have a hierarchy of what counts as scientific evidence. Expert opinion/experience is the bottom of that triangle. So, yes, anecdotal evidence can be science. In medicine we call it a case study.
The top is metanalysis of multiple randomized double blind trials that don't have conflicts of interest. There are now multiple studies that support DSK's point that people who are "up to date" on their covid vax are more likely to get covid and get sicker with it than those who are unvaxed or "not up to date".
I teach chemistry and biology. RCTs are hands down worst way to do science. RCTs are the gold standard for many, but a few of us know just how inherently flawed they are.
Getting vaxxed will not give you covid. The only argument one could make is that being vaxxed and boosted 17 times gives one false confidence - and then they think they can exist in a viral environment without a mask, or not sanitizing etc.
Sounds like somebody needs to do some reading about antibody dependent enhancement. It's a little bit beyond the secondary school student level knowledge you teach, no doubt, but Robert Malone has given multiple interviews explaining it in easy to understand terms. If Joe Rogan can understand this, I'm sure you'll be able to get there if you persist.
Joe rogan doesn't know real science, nor the history, but of course, he could learn it - any 5th grader can grasp plenty of ideas and concepts. The history of pandemics and vaccines have had cases where the vaccine created, we think, the actual viral or bacterial infection. With polio we had a vaccine that "they thought" was actually giving people Polio - and they pulled that particular vaccine.
The thing is this - These vaccines don't have the virus in them - so they can't give you the virus. That's the part that Malone et al don't grasp. Vaccines have ingredients in them that can do harm, lethal even - especially with matters of the heart, cardiac issues - but not covid. You can't get covid from a covid vaccine, because covid itself is not in the vaccine.
It's not that "they thought" that the polio vaccine was giving people polio BTW. It happened. I nursed a woman in ICU who got polio from changing the nappy of her baby who'd just had the polio vaccine. She was on a ventilator for months, paralyzed from the neck down. In the end we discharged her to a rest home, aged 30, on a ventilator to essentially wait until she got a chest infection and died. Never able to touch her child ever again. It's not "they thought", it happened. It was about 30 years ago, back when New Zealand still used the oral polio vaccine.
I'm sure that you know way more about this topic than Robert Malone, the developer of mRNA technology. Teaching high school biology certainly fits you much better to understand all of this (not to mention the hierarchy of medical knowledge etc) than being a medical doctor who has specialized in vaccine research and has a track record of making accurate predictions about this.
Does it occur to you that it is possibly you who is failing to understand as opposed to Rober Malone, MD, Pierre Kory MD (who halved the covid ICU mortality rate by pioneering he use of corticosteroids, but hey, I'm sure that's nothing next to your contribution to advancing medical science)?
Sounds like somebody still needs to read about antibody dependent enhancement, and perhaps get some humility.
The San people of Africa, the Australian Aboriginies and the Native Americans for example might not have had " Science", but boy have they always relied on " anecdotes" passed down the generations for survival. If you failed to learn the anecdotes you were gone very soon, taking your genetics with you. And remember, every single one of us descends from some or other land based people. So we all have that wisdom in us if we would just slow down and use our senses. Science has its place, but we need to balance that with wise observation.
Anecdotes can inform us, but they are not as reliable, dependable, as actually knowing what molecules are doing inside you where and when.