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That's not what we're seeing, the police are being cut and crime is shooting through the roof.

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Police have to be backed by a good judicial system and DA. In Portland OR, police can catch the criminals, but they get released immediately to commit more crimes. Violent criminals are released on bail all the time and they commit more violent crimes immediately after their release. Neighboring counties like mine get their spill over crime and we can't vote it out.

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Nope, not really. The police are now more than ever, 800,000 (the US Army is 1,300,000). Not many cuts anywhere.

Crime has some correlation with police presence but not so much, an elasticity of 0.5%. You'd have to jump the police by 10%, and they're already the 2nd budget line item expense after schools, to get a minor decrease is so-called crime - stolen bicycles, petty theft, speeding - they throw in everything to boost the numbers and make it look like they need more funding.

You also get a black cloud over the neighborhoods, a military armed occupation. That what you want? Do 800,000 black-uniformed police in their black-out cars make you feel safer? Maybe you want more surveillance? Maybe you want more black kids killed? Fifty years ago there was no massive police presence and no real crime.

There's been a 20% increase in crime (mainly robbery) since the pandemic (but recent decreases in homicide and rape)- caused not by fewer police, but by the pandemic. Social programs are less expensive and more effective than police. In my town, Boston, crime has dropped, and with no police increase.

Consider Australia or Canada, both have far fewer police per capita and also far less crime per capita.

You could cut the police in half with no terrible spike in crime. Note that a 50% cut is not down to zero - they'd still be 400,000 military trained and armed police. Ridiculous to scream about anarchy.

And is everyone aware of police sexual assault, which is rarely reported (to the police?) and meets with the code of silence, and is never prosecuted.

"Approximately 1,600 police officers across the United States were arrested for sex-related crimes during the ten year period 2005-2014. The arrested officers were employed by more than 1,100 state and local law enforcement agencies located in all fifty states and the District of Columbia. These data suggest that police sexual violence is a problem involving more than a few тАЬbad applesтАЭ and that the phenomenon of police sexual violence may be a cultural norm within many state and local law enforcement agencies."

The police have a penchant for preteen sexual assault, by the way.

https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/crim_just_pub/106/

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We'll have to agree to disagree, I understand you hate the police but people are fleeing New York, San Francisco, Portland, and even states like Minnesota who cut their police forces drastically. Cutting police size won't solve sexual abuse by them, better policies will.

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Better policies will need to change police culture - next to impossible. People are not fleeing states due to fewer police, and probably not due to the increases in robbery. Economic reasons are far more motivating. Fact is the only real increases in crime are in the poor neighborhoods and they can't "flee."

Any cut in police is due to tax revenue problems, which are solely economic and that has two effects, it makes people more likely to commit robbery (which is where the increase is), and to move somewhere else. Fewer police have nothing to do with anything. They always say crime is related to police to get more funding. Apparently the police-surveillance state has no effect on crime.

Crime is their cover story. What they're really for is to control and coerce and intimidate the People (primarily non-whites, but whites too). If you understand what's happening you will realize we are being prepared for global totalitarianism, which means total control, no freedom at all. Just wait until central bank digital currency arrives, which is on it's way:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cbdctracker/

Won't be any crime then.

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Just arm all the citizens and give them carte blanche to shoot criminals on sight.

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Problem solved.

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If I stop talking will you please stop? Your long off/topic posts are clogging up the comment section.

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I add value. Do you?

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Here is some value just for you. See a therapist.

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