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Turns out Pfizer was correct about their vaccine being safe and effective... as an abortifacient. And only compared to coat hangers.

Is Senator Johnson anti-choice when it comes to abortion? I think a compromise needs to be made here. An amendment that unconditionally defends bodily autonomy. No vaccine mandates, no body-violating restrictions on abortion.

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Since one considers abortion murder and another considers abortion as a medical procedure, it doesn't make sense why abortion was addressed at the federal level. Murder is handled by the states' criminal codes and states enact medical boards which handle licensing and medical procedures. Vaccines as medical procedures or murder should be state responsibilities as well.

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If one really considers abortion to be murder then wanting it to be left to the states is a morally cowardly position. If it’s murder then you should be demanding for it to be banned in all states. If it’s not murder on the other hand then it should be legalized in all states just like how segregation is illegal in all states and how vaccine mandates should be illegal in all states. When it’s a matter of civil rights it should be legal everywhere. Unfortunately stuff such as child protective services is left to the states. That’s probably why the issue doesn’t get any attention. People are more worried about fetuses dying mostly at an age at which they can’t feel pain or suffer than they are about post-birth children suffering from foster parents that enslave them. I was virtually enslaved by my foster parent, my twin sister still is (we’re 32 but she’s under conservatorship like Britney Spears) not allowed to contact me, living a life that I think is worse than death, but I put up with that for eight years because I was afraid of ending up with worse such as a pedophile.

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Yes, regardless of your position it should be handled by the States.

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Definitely no taxpayer money for that. I don't want any part of it.

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Not even for early-term abortions if it will prevent late-term abortions? In Europe they limit abortions more than in the US - not out of religious fundamentalism, but because of hangups about Nazism and such, maybe out of population concerns too - but it's paid for by the state.

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I think we all should be responsible for our own bodies, and so long as a baby is in a woman's body, it's her business. The choices she makes are between her and her conscience, and between her and God. It's a heavy burden, but that's life. If I feel like helping to provide early abortion services in an effort to prevent late abortions, as you say, including for victims of rape or incest, that should be my choice, and I can set up a foundation to do that if it doesn't already exist. I don't think the government should compel others to do it too. Let's keep government small and personal responsibility big.

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You got it!

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I don’t think the government should be small if the corporations are big. The government should match the size of the corporations. Small government for small companies, big government for big companies. Instead we have the reverse.

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That’s dark humour. I confess I chuckled, only briefly, mind.

Yes to Unconditional Bodily Autonomy. On this hill I will, if it comes to it, willingly die.

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Me too.

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For real. Pro-lifers are the Wokesters of the right. It's fundamentally the same issue. They want your bodily autonomy to be violated for the sake of saving someone's life. The jabboholics want your bodily autonomy to be violated for the sake of saving someone's life. I suspect if they thought of the fetus as a human being and not a clump of cells they would want to ban abortion for being racist or something as they clearly don't hold bodily autonomy as a core value (this also shows in their reactions to the Rittenhouse verdict).

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