I am a winery and vineyard owner with lots of followers and a high school swim coach, so my reach is pretty extensive. I talked to a furious mom last night on covid (she is very enlightened on this whole covid saga), but what she revealed last night to me is taking this covid thing up another level. Her 18 year old son definitely got c…
I am a winery and vineyard owner with lots of followers and a high school swim coach, so my reach is pretty extensive. I talked to a furious mom last night on covid (she is very enlightened on this whole covid saga), but what she revealed last night to me is taking this covid thing up another level. Her 18 year old son definitely got covid in March, then forged a signature to get the covid shot in May (because his girlfriend wanted him to get the shot). Last night, asymptomatic, he tested positive again. His mom had him get tested because his sister came in town and got covid. I had an extensive interview with the mom (she has not gotten the shot). The son got covid, got the shot against her will, and now has covid again. My sister has had covid and has gone around helping those with covid, at least 10 thus far, and of course, never gets sick from it. I can see lasting immunity from those who have gotten it (I got it too and treated it with nutrients and got rid of the vid in 3 days). Of course I have seen triple vaxxed get the vid, but this is a first. So the question is obvious and here it goes: Could the stupid shot actually damage the immunity of someone who had previously gotten covid to the point where they can get covid over and over again? Thanks, Jim
Please clarify what it means when you say all these various people "got Covid." I hear this bizarre expression (i.e., using very loose language) from people everywhere now, even from those who are supposedly enlightened about the scam (including the fact that the so-called "virus" has never been actually isolated and thus identified, i.e., via scanning electron microscopy). Accordingly, there cannot be any “new” disease derived from said non-existent virus. Remember that something can only be unique and thus given a new name as a new disease (e.g., Covid) if it derives from a new type of pathogen proven to cause disease and in turn produce unique symptoms. So what were the symptoms of these people who you say "got Covid"? And was the so-called "virus" actually identified in these people? Thanks for your reply in advance.
Hi Michigan Rob, yes, the person I am talking about is a teen that tested positive in the spring and tested positive this weekend. The test for positivity this weekend was an at home test. His test in the spring came at a healthcare facility. Before it became mainstream, I had trouble with the amplification of the PCR test, so it really becomes hard to know who had it and who hasn't.
The Goldberg, et al. "hybrid immunity" study found that rates of infection for recovered + vaccinated were a hair lower than for recovered alone, at 4-8 months (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.04.21267114v1). That would suggest the reinfection of your contact's son is unusual.
However, that was before Omicron. It could be that a lot of the "reinfections" we are hearing about w/ Omicron are cases just like that - infection + vaccine + Omicron. Either having high residual antibodies is not good when it comes to Omicron, or the vaccine causes the immune system to deprioritize the full spectrum immune response (against all the epitopes associated with the virus) in favor of the spike. In either case, the recovered+vaccinated looked like they weren't being disfavored before but now that the spike is more mutated, the damage becomes clear.
And then there's general immune suppression, anecdotally this is well supported. Again, this was hidden before by the "anti-spike immunity" but the spike is too different now.
Thank you Brian. Clicking on it....Cheers, Jim These two years have been completely insane. I haven't lost course, however. Just disappointed and ticked off, but much better educated on immunology!!!!
Me too, though I have gone a step further and looked directly at the published evidence for discovering a new virus. When one is ready to go down that rabbit hole, I declare it will be interesting for anyone intellectually inclined. However, you do have to buckle up and learn the abstruse terminology of virology, once you do you can explore the evidence directly and run it by your logic filters and understanding of the basic scientific method. My conclusion after these 2 years where I had nothing more important to do...is that the entire field of virology is a pseudoscience. They have never found a virus directly in an "infected" person, and say they can only produce them by culturing them on chemically treated foreign tissue culture...and oh so much more...
Hi Janine, I have seen some discussions as to what you are alluding to. I haven't increased my "pay grade / education level" to that level yet, but I am getting there. I'm glad you have been able to get there. It is fascinating study.
Yes, this seems likely not only because the shot tampers with immune systems, but also because it reactivates a variety of dormant viruses in the recipient, such as Epstien-Barr and Herpes. So the possibilities are that either 1) natural immunity was damaged; 2) previous covid remnants were reactivated; or 3) one of the covid infections was misidentified due to faulty testing. Hopefully some of problem 3 resolves if the EUA on PCR testing is truly allowed to expire today.
I am a winery and vineyard owner with lots of followers and a high school swim coach, so my reach is pretty extensive. I talked to a furious mom last night on covid (she is very enlightened on this whole covid saga), but what she revealed last night to me is taking this covid thing up another level. Her 18 year old son definitely got covid in March, then forged a signature to get the covid shot in May (because his girlfriend wanted him to get the shot). Last night, asymptomatic, he tested positive again. His mom had him get tested because his sister came in town and got covid. I had an extensive interview with the mom (she has not gotten the shot). The son got covid, got the shot against her will, and now has covid again. My sister has had covid and has gone around helping those with covid, at least 10 thus far, and of course, never gets sick from it. I can see lasting immunity from those who have gotten it (I got it too and treated it with nutrients and got rid of the vid in 3 days). Of course I have seen triple vaxxed get the vid, but this is a first. So the question is obvious and here it goes: Could the stupid shot actually damage the immunity of someone who had previously gotten covid to the point where they can get covid over and over again? Thanks, Jim
Please clarify what it means when you say all these various people "got Covid." I hear this bizarre expression (i.e., using very loose language) from people everywhere now, even from those who are supposedly enlightened about the scam (including the fact that the so-called "virus" has never been actually isolated and thus identified, i.e., via scanning electron microscopy). Accordingly, there cannot be any “new” disease derived from said non-existent virus. Remember that something can only be unique and thus given a new name as a new disease (e.g., Covid) if it derives from a new type of pathogen proven to cause disease and in turn produce unique symptoms. So what were the symptoms of these people who you say "got Covid"? And was the so-called "virus" actually identified in these people? Thanks for your reply in advance.
Hi Michigan Rob, yes, the person I am talking about is a teen that tested positive in the spring and tested positive this weekend. The test for positivity this weekend was an at home test. His test in the spring came at a healthcare facility. Before it became mainstream, I had trouble with the amplification of the PCR test, so it really becomes hard to know who had it and who hasn't.
The Goldberg, et al. "hybrid immunity" study found that rates of infection for recovered + vaccinated were a hair lower than for recovered alone, at 4-8 months (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.04.21267114v1). That would suggest the reinfection of your contact's son is unusual.
However, that was before Omicron. It could be that a lot of the "reinfections" we are hearing about w/ Omicron are cases just like that - infection + vaccine + Omicron. Either having high residual antibodies is not good when it comes to Omicron, or the vaccine causes the immune system to deprioritize the full spectrum immune response (against all the epitopes associated with the virus) in favor of the spike. In either case, the recovered+vaccinated looked like they weren't being disfavored before but now that the spike is more mutated, the damage becomes clear.
And then there's general immune suppression, anecdotally this is well supported. Again, this was hidden before by the "anti-spike immunity" but the spike is too different now.
Both possibilities discussed at https://unglossed.substack.com/p/neg
Thank you Brian. Clicking on it....Cheers, Jim These two years have been completely insane. I haven't lost course, however. Just disappointed and ticked off, but much better educated on immunology!!!!
Me too, though I have gone a step further and looked directly at the published evidence for discovering a new virus. When one is ready to go down that rabbit hole, I declare it will be interesting for anyone intellectually inclined. However, you do have to buckle up and learn the abstruse terminology of virology, once you do you can explore the evidence directly and run it by your logic filters and understanding of the basic scientific method. My conclusion after these 2 years where I had nothing more important to do...is that the entire field of virology is a pseudoscience. They have never found a virus directly in an "infected" person, and say they can only produce them by culturing them on chemically treated foreign tissue culture...and oh so much more...
Hi Janine, I have seen some discussions as to what you are alluding to. I haven't increased my "pay grade / education level" to that level yet, but I am getting there. I'm glad you have been able to get there. It is fascinating study.
Yes, this seems likely not only because the shot tampers with immune systems, but also because it reactivates a variety of dormant viruses in the recipient, such as Epstien-Barr and Herpes. So the possibilities are that either 1) natural immunity was damaged; 2) previous covid remnants were reactivated; or 3) one of the covid infections was misidentified due to faulty testing. Hopefully some of problem 3 resolves if the EUA on PCR testing is truly allowed to expire today.
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Thank you, YYR for taking time to send me your thoughts, for I greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Jim