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Isn't it funny that the first people to say it's none of your business, make everyone else's business theirs. Die on this hill, and your children will die on the Vax hill. Take your pick. You can't have both. Either people have the right to control their own body or they don't. If U can tell others they have mandatory medical procedures, then U and your children can also be ordered to have random medical procedures. Either U are a slave or U are not. But U cannot make others your slave and then think U will remain free.

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Amen. If people didn't see enough to draw a line and reject anyone and everyone involved in the horrors of the Naziesque Covid response and those vaccines, then they have their priorities screwed. There was ZERO effective opposition to atrocities, like sending Covid patients into nursing homes. What I witnessed was mass murder and clever ways to pass the buck and act like 'I tried, but failed or couldn't....'

It only takes a lick of common sense to NOT rush vaccines through while the other side is farting on about reasons to not use HCQ and IVM or repurposing other drugs already proven safe.

I expected Trump to say, "No. Vaccines are not the only answer and many people won't want to take a rushed vaccine. NOTHING is off the table. If you disagree, I won't fund any vaccine development, at all. Other countries can fund them. I'll ONLY fund safe alternative treatments & repurposed drugs."

He left us high & dry...I said from day 1 I am not taking a novel vaccine for a novel virus that was developed at 'warp speed.'

That was a reasonable decision and Trump had ZERO respect for the eventuality that people would not want to take the stupid vaccines. I hate him for that.

There's no justification no matter what excuse they come up with. Trump is the reason people believed 'the vaccine is the only way back to normalcy.' No one's hands were tied. We didn't need ventilators to open up and they aren't a first line treatment. We didn't need X# of contact tracers and if we did, then hire them and hire them fast...NYC stayed closed because of that reason alone.

Erase everyone that 'tried and failed' or was 'in on it.' None of them are fit to serve.

If your candidate can't say, "Those vaccines are dangerous and must be pulled immediately for the sake of public safety," then your candidate is either dumb or dishonest...and I don't take you seriously.

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Remember “right to try”?

Why was that a groundswell? Because, it allowed people who had nothing left to lose to try a long shot. It was considered merciful whereas the prior restraint was considered bureaucratically insensitive to human suffering.

Place that mindset over “vaccine trials lasting years”. There may be a legitimate case for the length of the trial, but in the former frame of mind holding in its gaze the bureaucratic FDA, a reduction of red tape would be welcomed by all. Only those who understood the full complexity of vaccine trials would caution of little to be gained from the time acceleration.

Consider that the FDA and CDC were playing goalie for a DoD or DARPA wartime germ project, and those in the know (pharma) made a judo move of taking the innate frustration of FDA bureaucracy and using it to crush a vaccine trial and jam mRNA into human testing finally.

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BTW, the original mRNA drug substance on which all the mRNA vaccines now and in the future, are based, is called 'Nadorameran'...

'-Meran' is the non-proprietary part of the name.

That's where Tozinameran (Pfizer) and Elasomeran (Moderna) got their names.

Anyway, it was tested in humans in a 'proof of concept' trial, between 2013 and 2016. It is a rabies vaccine, tested in Europe...here's what the trial showed:

"This first-ever demonstration in human beings shows that a prophylactic mRNA-based candidate vaccine can induce boostable functional antibodies against a viral antigen when administered with a needle-free device, although not when injected by a needle-syringe.

The vaccine was generally safe with a reasonable tolerability profile."

https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/s0140-6736(17)31665-3

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I repeat..."...although not when injected by a needle-syringe."

What changed?

There is pretty much zero risk of being exposed to rabies in Europe, so we have no idea what real-life consequences that had on the subjects that were injected with a needle-syringe.

'Warp speed' was a terrible idea with these novel vaccines.

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'Warp speed' meant -- "We aren't giving you any time to learn about these products and ask questions. We also don't want you to know anything about long term side effects, but do not be suspicious of that."

People want to ask questions and inform themselves and understand. They don't want to 'trust' experts that may not have gleaned any more information from a longer trial.

I remember the FDA contraindicated HCQ with Remdesivir, so, "No, you can't try both," was the easiest thing for a doctor to say. The FDA also allowed pharmacists to believe they had some authority to withhold IVM & HCQ.

"Right to try" was a lie to buy time for the vaccines and by the time it became painfully clear there was no such right being recognized...*voila* muh Covid jabs. If you wanted to exercise the right to try...you had to resort to buying ivermectin at Tractor Supply for early treatment or pay through the nose.

No biggie though...resourceful people made it work if they were fortunate enough to know not to scoff.

They trampled on so many of our 'rights'...I never held any hope my 'right to try' would be respected by anyone but me.

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Really only saying that the public was played 3-4 different ways by pharma and their handlers.

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Unfortunately...it included people with mental disabilities who were given a vaccine IQ test, jabbed with unsafe products, & then judged for not being smart enough to know better.

It's the public's fault for being dumb...not the fraudsters that preyed on the trusting...including those who have been misled to trust in light of mental disabilities.

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