If Susan Northrup took Steven Kirsch's phone call, and stayed on the line for a minute or two, that makes her potentially a bigger friend to the MFM than virtually any other high-level insider that Steve has been trying to call for the past year.
Furthermore, judging from the fact that her husband is unvaxxed, we can assume that she at le…
If Susan Northrup took Steven Kirsch's phone call, and stayed on the line for a minute or two, that makes her potentially a bigger friend to the MFM than virtually any other high-level insider that Steve has been trying to call for the past year.
Furthermore, judging from the fact that her husband is unvaxxed, we can assume that she at least is somewhat familiar with the issues, and with our position.
If indeed she's a supporter, that puts her in a delicate position. How much can she say or do, without getting fired and cancelled? Perhaps her calculation is that she can do more by biding her time a little while longer. Now, I personally have very little respect for that sort of position, but it may be what she's thinking. Or, as Paul says, maybe she really does need time to investigate, as well as time to do strategic planning.
So now here's Steve, demanding that she act by today, Sunday, 1PM. And there's a threat: not only that he will call for Susan's resignation, but also that she'll hear from a huge crowd of others on his mailing list. Including those who have also been listening to Stew Peters, who calls for literal violence against government officials promoting the vaxx.
It is not aggressive enough, because we cannot go back in time to reclaim all the deaths, injuries and destruction that has been leveled against everyone.. She is complicit and knows and is just getting paid and riding it out.. If her husband is unvaxxed, then she knows and is aware of TRUTH.. These people are EVIL and complicit.. Please do not be fooled because you want to give them every excuse.. Nobody gave the people who died and have been injured no excuses or time to decide anything.. These people are EVIL and complicit.. If there is anytime in history, when it is time to stand for TRUTH and either do something or resign.. Keeping your job is not an option when you are fighting EVIL.. We ask soldiers, which I am a Vietnam veteran to fight and die to defend our freedoms on foreign shores, well its time for these medical people to do the same here and now..
"that puts her in a delicate position. How much can she say or do, without getting fired and cancelled? "
A DELICATE position!! Her JOB is to PROTECT the pilots, so THEY can protect the passengers!! (Do you not see a difference between "fired and cancelled" and many people DEAD in a plane crash SHE WAS HIRED TO PREVENT?!)
If you are on a plane and your LIFE depends on a pilot forced to take a shot that might KILL HIM IN FLIGHT (proven -- already PROVEN!) you gonna feel ANY sympathy for her over her "delicate position"? How about the delicate position of the passengers and crew her "I haven't done anything" MIGHT KILL!!! And DON'T try the "well, 'flight officer... two pilots... it wouldn't necessarily crash." Did you not see some airlines are making noises about having only ONE pilot in the cockpit, because so many are out sick (or dead)?! Did you miss the flight officer talking to the ATC (it's on YouTube) where his pilot died;' and he asked for emergency clearance, which they gave him, and after he landed the plane, he told ATC that he would not be able MOVE the plane for several minutes, because he had to move the dead pilot out of the left seat. Turns out the right-hand seat does NOT allow taxiing -
- only the pilot's seat. And how about the small-plane AG flyer who SOMEHOW managed to land his plane after he blacked out, and has no idea HOW he managed to land it. Vaxx-related.
But we should treat the govt official who is NOT doing her job with delicacy? Hell NO!
If she's a supporter -- and her own pilot husband REFUSED the shot -- then she had a HUMAN DUTY to speak up. "ooooh she might lose her jooooob." Are you kidding? Her refusal to stand up might have killed/yet still kill a planeload of 100+ people!
"maybe she really does need time to investigate" -- it's been nearly TWO YEARS of deaths and disabilities and coercion and force! There is no need to investigate! Her JOB is to call a halt until she is as SURE as possible that the poison-vaxx mandate is not likely to KILL a planeload.
How many MORE people are you willing to force to risk DEATH to prevent Steve being "too aggressive" with someone whose JOB means she should have been 100% ON TOP OF THIS for at least 1-3/4 YEARS! If she thinks that's too aggressive then she needs to not be in the job! And if you think it's mean to have people raising high-holy-HELL because her NOT doing her job could mean the risk of death for hundreds of thousands of passenger -- and pilots and crew and ground crew -- then you are wrong!
"ooooho her FEELINGS might be hurt!" (Is she a friend of yours, or do you think official malfeasance in an hugely important job is just fine as long as it's a woman doing it?! We just won't COUNT UP the dead?)
I feel your pain. Based on your argument, the right thing to do would have been to call for her resignation the day after Bob Snow's heart attack, if not sooner.
All I'm saying is that there's no reason to risk alienating a potential ally with over-the-top rhetoric. Maybe the damage is done already, but maybe Steve could send a followup email.
I appreciate that Steve pinned Paul's message. I hope this means that Steve is looking for feedback from the community. As of this writing, Paul's message has the most likes of any in the comment section.
If she were a potential ally, why has she done nothing so far? I don't excuse people who are tasked with VITAL work, who ... eh, just didn't get around to it. Her pilot HUSBAND refused the shot. She has the JOB and did nothing -- didn't say anything, didn't stand up -- didn't quit! When he refused -- she should have IMMEDIATELY turned her attention to that. (One ASSUMES she respects her husband at least somewhat...)+
She SAID she knew about Pilot Snow -- and has done nothing. And, as Steve wrote -- he didn't even know we HAD such a position as "Federal Flight Surgeon! Neither did I. But nothing excuses her non-action. Nothing excuses the carelessness about pilots' lives -- and passengers' lives!
"Risk alienating her"!?!? I'd like to 'risk her' being jailed for malfeasance!
I often don't check emails on Sundays. If it's a government email address, she may not even have access at home. Imagine finding that email on your work computer first thing Monday morning. Sounds like he gave her just 12 hours to respond? He's assuming she has Snow's file at her fingertips (he said her office received the file, she may not have even seen it). None of us know the full story, all that has transpired between her & Steve, but from what he's shared, he's made a ton of assumptions.
Pilot Snow was injured about a YEAR ago. Many pilots are being GROUNDED for failing heart exams. Others are HIDING their injuries so they can keep flying/keep their jobs.
I don't care if she only started the job on 1st Jan! It's HER JOB to be on top of this!
If Susan Northrup took Steven Kirsch's phone call, and stayed on the line for a minute or two, that makes her potentially a bigger friend to the MFM than virtually any other high-level insider that Steve has been trying to call for the past year.
Furthermore, judging from the fact that her husband is unvaxxed, we can assume that she at least is somewhat familiar with the issues, and with our position.
If indeed she's a supporter, that puts her in a delicate position. How much can she say or do, without getting fired and cancelled? Perhaps her calculation is that she can do more by biding her time a little while longer. Now, I personally have very little respect for that sort of position, but it may be what she's thinking. Or, as Paul says, maybe she really does need time to investigate, as well as time to do strategic planning.
So now here's Steve, demanding that she act by today, Sunday, 1PM. And there's a threat: not only that he will call for Susan's resignation, but also that she'll hear from a huge crowd of others on his mailing list. Including those who have also been listening to Stew Peters, who calls for literal violence against government officials promoting the vaxx.
So I agree, this is way too aggressive.
It is not aggressive enough, because we cannot go back in time to reclaim all the deaths, injuries and destruction that has been leveled against everyone.. She is complicit and knows and is just getting paid and riding it out.. If her husband is unvaxxed, then she knows and is aware of TRUTH.. These people are EVIL and complicit.. Please do not be fooled because you want to give them every excuse.. Nobody gave the people who died and have been injured no excuses or time to decide anything.. These people are EVIL and complicit.. If there is anytime in history, when it is time to stand for TRUTH and either do something or resign.. Keeping your job is not an option when you are fighting EVIL.. We ask soldiers, which I am a Vietnam veteran to fight and die to defend our freedoms on foreign shores, well its time for these medical people to do the same here and now..
"that puts her in a delicate position. How much can she say or do, without getting fired and cancelled? "
A DELICATE position!! Her JOB is to PROTECT the pilots, so THEY can protect the passengers!! (Do you not see a difference between "fired and cancelled" and many people DEAD in a plane crash SHE WAS HIRED TO PREVENT?!)
If you are on a plane and your LIFE depends on a pilot forced to take a shot that might KILL HIM IN FLIGHT (proven -- already PROVEN!) you gonna feel ANY sympathy for her over her "delicate position"? How about the delicate position of the passengers and crew her "I haven't done anything" MIGHT KILL!!! And DON'T try the "well, 'flight officer... two pilots... it wouldn't necessarily crash." Did you not see some airlines are making noises about having only ONE pilot in the cockpit, because so many are out sick (or dead)?! Did you miss the flight officer talking to the ATC (it's on YouTube) where his pilot died;' and he asked for emergency clearance, which they gave him, and after he landed the plane, he told ATC that he would not be able MOVE the plane for several minutes, because he had to move the dead pilot out of the left seat. Turns out the right-hand seat does NOT allow taxiing -
- only the pilot's seat. And how about the small-plane AG flyer who SOMEHOW managed to land his plane after he blacked out, and has no idea HOW he managed to land it. Vaxx-related.
But we should treat the govt official who is NOT doing her job with delicacy? Hell NO!
If she's a supporter -- and her own pilot husband REFUSED the shot -- then she had a HUMAN DUTY to speak up. "ooooh she might lose her jooooob." Are you kidding? Her refusal to stand up might have killed/yet still kill a planeload of 100+ people!
"maybe she really does need time to investigate" -- it's been nearly TWO YEARS of deaths and disabilities and coercion and force! There is no need to investigate! Her JOB is to call a halt until she is as SURE as possible that the poison-vaxx mandate is not likely to KILL a planeload.
How many MORE people are you willing to force to risk DEATH to prevent Steve being "too aggressive" with someone whose JOB means she should have been 100% ON TOP OF THIS for at least 1-3/4 YEARS! If she thinks that's too aggressive then she needs to not be in the job! And if you think it's mean to have people raising high-holy-HELL because her NOT doing her job could mean the risk of death for hundreds of thousands of passenger -- and pilots and crew and ground crew -- then you are wrong!
"ooooho her FEELINGS might be hurt!" (Is she a friend of yours, or do you think official malfeasance in an hugely important job is just fine as long as it's a woman doing it?! We just won't COUNT UP the dead?)
Do the job or get out of the kitchen!!
Hello Avalanche,
I feel your pain. Based on your argument, the right thing to do would have been to call for her resignation the day after Bob Snow's heart attack, if not sooner.
All I'm saying is that there's no reason to risk alienating a potential ally with over-the-top rhetoric. Maybe the damage is done already, but maybe Steve could send a followup email.
I appreciate that Steve pinned Paul's message. I hope this means that Steve is looking for feedback from the community. As of this writing, Paul's message has the most likes of any in the comment section.
If she were a potential ally, why has she done nothing so far? I don't excuse people who are tasked with VITAL work, who ... eh, just didn't get around to it. Her pilot HUSBAND refused the shot. She has the JOB and did nothing -- didn't say anything, didn't stand up -- didn't quit! When he refused -- she should have IMMEDIATELY turned her attention to that. (One ASSUMES she respects her husband at least somewhat...)+
She SAID she knew about Pilot Snow -- and has done nothing. And, as Steve wrote -- he didn't even know we HAD such a position as "Federal Flight Surgeon! Neither did I. But nothing excuses her non-action. Nothing excuses the carelessness about pilots' lives -- and passengers' lives!
"Risk alienating her"!?!? I'd like to 'risk her' being jailed for malfeasance!
I'm glad you weren't around when we left England.
I often don't check emails on Sundays. If it's a government email address, she may not even have access at home. Imagine finding that email on your work computer first thing Monday morning. Sounds like he gave her just 12 hours to respond? He's assuming she has Snow's file at her fingertips (he said her office received the file, she may not have even seen it). None of us know the full story, all that has transpired between her & Steve, but from what he's shared, he's made a ton of assumptions.
Pilot Snow was injured about a YEAR ago. Many pilots are being GROUNDED for failing heart exams. Others are HIDING their injuries so they can keep flying/keep their jobs.
I don't care if she only started the job on 1st Jan! It's HER JOB to be on top of this!
Doubt she needs any more excuses.....