All you have to do is answer 20 questions I have about vaccine/mask safety and efficacy and convince us we got it all wrong. What could be easier than that?
Avi forgets that Cuomo was putting old folks back into nursing homes at that point. Also, since then, even the studies on the jabs themselves.. Vs placebo...place the jab group as higher for deaths vs placebo. Explanation?? They actually changed the data before approval and after...believe it was 14 in meds group vs 17 in placebo. Now it's 21 in meds group vs placebo... plus stopped study and offered the shots to the placebo group. Explanation, Avi?
Med student here attending in California. It’s been an awful process trying to find hospitals out of state that will allow me to finish my education there. All California hospitals I was scheduled to attend have said they “will not accept medical or religious exemptions for the COVID vaccine.” So I had to pack my bags and do my last 2 years in Utah and Montana. California doctors are brainwashed beyond belief. Utah and Montana doctors see the grey areas a lot better.
Too right, she will punish us more. I am 81 with bowel cancer diagnosed 15 months ago. So far have managed very nicely, no surgery. I have a husband who had a bad stroke and he needs me. Really scary that the WHO wants to take over the health of every country which means they can tell, not advise, what each Govt MUST do in the form of vaccines, medicines etc etc. The poor Drs trying to do their best, most have been stood down who could afford too. This also means all vitamins, minerals, herbs natural therapies and medicines will be gone.
Plan C: If we all post, email, verbalize Steve’s 20 questions to our blue-pilled friends, family and colleagues, maybe we can start a movement? The power of the collective can not be underestimated. Let’s all pitch in here!
They can't take your challenge until their future bosses are in jail.
What good is a Medical degree if you'll be forever blacklisted?
I suppose if someone planned on working in Africa or Asia, they could don the scarlet letter of proselytizing to the non-believers...
But these are the people who could read Doomberg and say, 'nah - lets keep strangling our energy sector and fill in the gaps by giving Iran everything it wants.'
How can you expect someone like Dr. Michael Osterholm to debate you when you're publicly accusing him a being a liar ("Here's the real reason they won't debate us... A lie does not like being challenged")? Do you really think Dr. Osterholm didn't take the vaccine himself and isn't encouraging his family and friends to do so? Your accusing him of being a liar has to make him wonder if you are being truthful in saying you will change your position if he presents evidence which makes more sense than yours. Almost every day CIDRAP reports on new studies which appear to validate their positions and contradict yours. I have neither the time nor scientific background to judge, so I have to rely on the way the opposing parties are presenting themselves. I think your group is raising extremely important questions and I'm very disappointed with Dr. Osterholm, among others, that he won't respond to them, apparently because he thinks drawing attention to them will increase vaccine hesitancy which he believes is foolish, however he seems like a very sincere man to me and I don't think implying that everyone who won't debate you is lying is accurate or helpful.
Mr. Schultz: I highly encourage you to listen to / view Dr. Osterholm’s interview with Joe Rogan on Spotify from Feb. 18, 2022. I was amazed by the level of disingenuity in his responses. He’s a bought and paid for shill. I’d be curious how you can reach a different conclusion. Let’s dispense with politeness when lives are on the line.
Well, I have a history of trusting people I shouldn't have trusted and need to be careful about that, but I used to listen to Dr. Osterholm's podcast every week, until he and CIDRAP refused to respond to my requests that they address the points people like Drs. Malone and Bridle were making. But again, I think their concern is simply that with most people not having the background to judge the science, giving attention to what they consider to be pseudo-scientific arguments would only confuse them and make them vaccine hesitant. I know CIDRAP has big pharma connections but from many hours of listening I still think Dr. Osterholm, who has been correctly warning about the danger of a pandemic for decades and is quite brilliant, imo, is a man of integrity who truly believes what he is saying and would in fact change his position if he thought it would save lives. The problem with the Joe Rogan interview was that Rogan, under enormous pressure after his interviews with Drs. Malone and McCullough, only asked softball questions, never once mentioning VAERS or the issue of regulatory capture. I'd like to know what you think he lied about. Do you not think he has taken the vaccine/boosters and is encouraging his family and friends to? I applaud Steve for trying to get a public discussion going between people like Dr. Osterholm and Dr. Malone, which I think is an extremely important goal, but it hasn't been achieved to date and I think a different approach is needed. There's a big difference between saying "You're lying" and "I think you're lying." That was Dr. Osterholm's first point in the Rogan interview, the importance of humility, of not claiming we know more than we do. Steve is usually very good on this, but even geniuses make mistakes sometimes and with that quote about lying on a big poster/meme in the debate-team article he frequently links back to, I thought I should point it out.
you are a gullible fool. Propaganda being released doesn't qualify as facts. Every day there is more evidence released that not only is the vaccine not safe or effective but that the government inflated numbers and shut down effective treatments resulting in the deaths of thousands. idiot.
One of my best friends from my undergrad years happens to be a physician, where his daughter also happens to be in medical school. I texted him a link to the offer to let him know about this opportunity for his daughter: Crickets [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2KVj2vVxUs]. My buddy *did* respond to some pics that I sent to him just after I sent him the link to Steve's offer. This means that he was paying attention to my texts but consciously chose *not* to acknowledge Steve's offer that could help his daughter and/or her friends at medical school...
Avi forgets that Cuomo was putting old folks back into nursing homes at that point. Also, since then, even the studies on the jabs themselves.. Vs placebo...place the jab group as higher for deaths vs placebo. Explanation?? They actually changed the data before approval and after...believe it was 14 in meds group vs 17 in placebo. Now it's 21 in meds group vs placebo... plus stopped study and offered the shots to the placebo group. Explanation, Avi?
Awesome
Med student here attending in California. It’s been an awful process trying to find hospitals out of state that will allow me to finish my education there. All California hospitals I was scheduled to attend have said they “will not accept medical or religious exemptions for the COVID vaccine.” So I had to pack my bags and do my last 2 years in Utah and Montana. California doctors are brainwashed beyond belief. Utah and Montana doctors see the grey areas a lot better.
Can you pay me to go back to school? I'll gladly trade my Computer Science degree for an MD
Then where are the millions upon millions of bio hazard bins and the big haz waste contractors making billions to manage this deadly virus??? 🤷🏼♂️
Too right, she will punish us more. I am 81 with bowel cancer diagnosed 15 months ago. So far have managed very nicely, no surgery. I have a husband who had a bad stroke and he needs me. Really scary that the WHO wants to take over the health of every country which means they can tell, not advise, what each Govt MUST do in the form of vaccines, medicines etc etc. The poor Drs trying to do their best, most have been stood down who could afford too. This also means all vitamins, minerals, herbs natural therapies and medicines will be gone.
Steve, you should also consider offering the same deal to Physician Associate students I bet you will get more + responses
Plan C: If we all post, email, verbalize Steve’s 20 questions to our blue-pilled friends, family and colleagues, maybe we can start a movement? The power of the collective can not be underestimated. Let’s all pitch in here!
They can't take your challenge until their future bosses are in jail.
What good is a Medical degree if you'll be forever blacklisted?
I suppose if someone planned on working in Africa or Asia, they could don the scarlet letter of proselytizing to the non-believers...
But these are the people who could read Doomberg and say, 'nah - lets keep strangling our energy sector and fill in the gaps by giving Iran everything it wants.'
How can you expect someone like Dr. Michael Osterholm to debate you when you're publicly accusing him a being a liar ("Here's the real reason they won't debate us... A lie does not like being challenged")? Do you really think Dr. Osterholm didn't take the vaccine himself and isn't encouraging his family and friends to do so? Your accusing him of being a liar has to make him wonder if you are being truthful in saying you will change your position if he presents evidence which makes more sense than yours. Almost every day CIDRAP reports on new studies which appear to validate their positions and contradict yours. I have neither the time nor scientific background to judge, so I have to rely on the way the opposing parties are presenting themselves. I think your group is raising extremely important questions and I'm very disappointed with Dr. Osterholm, among others, that he won't respond to them, apparently because he thinks drawing attention to them will increase vaccine hesitancy which he believes is foolish, however he seems like a very sincere man to me and I don't think implying that everyone who won't debate you is lying is accurate or helpful.
Mr. Schultz: I highly encourage you to listen to / view Dr. Osterholm’s interview with Joe Rogan on Spotify from Feb. 18, 2022. I was amazed by the level of disingenuity in his responses. He’s a bought and paid for shill. I’d be curious how you can reach a different conclusion. Let’s dispense with politeness when lives are on the line.
Well, I have a history of trusting people I shouldn't have trusted and need to be careful about that, but I used to listen to Dr. Osterholm's podcast every week, until he and CIDRAP refused to respond to my requests that they address the points people like Drs. Malone and Bridle were making. But again, I think their concern is simply that with most people not having the background to judge the science, giving attention to what they consider to be pseudo-scientific arguments would only confuse them and make them vaccine hesitant. I know CIDRAP has big pharma connections but from many hours of listening I still think Dr. Osterholm, who has been correctly warning about the danger of a pandemic for decades and is quite brilliant, imo, is a man of integrity who truly believes what he is saying and would in fact change his position if he thought it would save lives. The problem with the Joe Rogan interview was that Rogan, under enormous pressure after his interviews with Drs. Malone and McCullough, only asked softball questions, never once mentioning VAERS or the issue of regulatory capture. I'd like to know what you think he lied about. Do you not think he has taken the vaccine/boosters and is encouraging his family and friends to? I applaud Steve for trying to get a public discussion going between people like Dr. Osterholm and Dr. Malone, which I think is an extremely important goal, but it hasn't been achieved to date and I think a different approach is needed. There's a big difference between saying "You're lying" and "I think you're lying." That was Dr. Osterholm's first point in the Rogan interview, the importance of humility, of not claiming we know more than we do. Steve is usually very good on this, but even geniuses make mistakes sometimes and with that quote about lying on a big poster/meme in the debate-team article he frequently links back to, I thought I should point it out.
you are a gullible fool. Propaganda being released doesn't qualify as facts. Every day there is more evidence released that not only is the vaccine not safe or effective but that the government inflated numbers and shut down effective treatments resulting in the deaths of thousands. idiot.
Even if that's true I was talking about whether people like Dr. Osterholm are lying, and should be accused of such, Doug. No?
Dr. Osterholm is lying or deluded (I favor the former).
Those students have been busy and are taught only old ideas. Wisdom will eventually come with consequences.
Sent it to my niece and nephew who are med students. Hope they take up the challenge. Thank you so much for the work you do!!!!
BRILLIANT IDEA, lets hope some students responds!!!
Cool, I hope someone takes you up on it.
One of my best friends from my undergrad years happens to be a physician, where his daughter also happens to be in medical school. I texted him a link to the offer to let him know about this opportunity for his daughter: Crickets [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2KVj2vVxUs]. My buddy *did* respond to some pics that I sent to him just after I sent him the link to Steve's offer. This means that he was paying attention to my texts but consciously chose *not* to acknowledge Steve's offer that could help his daughter and/or her friends at medical school...
Genius 👏👏👏