Electron micrographs have been around much longer than software that can generate those images. Let's consider the measles, smallpox, or a hemorrhagic fever virus like Ebola. Each produces very specific visible signs that are pretty much only specific to those viruses. Each of those viruses produce different, unique symptoms and are f…
Electron micrographs have been around much longer than software that can generate those images. Let's consider the measles, smallpox, or a hemorrhagic fever virus like Ebola. Each produces very specific visible signs that are pretty much only specific to those viruses. Each of those viruses produce different, unique symptoms and are found in everyone infected. If all that is really occurring is a reaction to a poor diet, lifestyle or toxic environmental exposure, please explain why people infected with any of those 3 viruses are experiencing such extremely unusual symptoms that aren't known for being symptoms of general unwellness? Ebola is found (for now) in Africa and not America. How are Africans abusing their body in such a way as to cause symptoms of Ebola that never happens to even one American?
AGAIN: please send me an EM of a virus or a bacteriophage. I asked for a photo that is NOT a computer generated image and you are avoiding the point and trying to make my point something other than what I asked for. My claim is not one virus has ever been isolated and shown to exist. Koch's postulates are the gold standard for establishing the causal relationships between pathogens and disease. If you can't satisfy the first postulate you have nothing. A small genetic snippet that has been grown in a cell culture does not satisfy the first postulate and is not a virus.
As for Smithsonian's article, I wonder who wrote it. Quote: ..."dangerous pathogens that cause disease, such as the current coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2 causing a worldwide pandemic...". SARS-CoV-2 has never been identified by any lab anywhere in the world. The same goes for all "viruses". NOT EVEN ONE has been isolated. If I remember right, Steve even posted about this.
As for this statement of yours:
"Here is a paper about Koch's postulates satisfied for Sars". Maybe you didn't read the article from nih.gov because the title: "Koch's postulates fulfilled for SARS virus" is a flat out lie. Why do I say that? The first line of their text starts out with: "According to Koch's postulates, as modified by Rivers...". NOT SATISFIED FOR KOCH, BUT SATISFIED FOR RIVERS. That is a HUGE difference!
Thank-you for finding me a pic of a bacteriophage. In your opening remark you stated they are viruses. According to MicroBiologyResearch.org they are not. Please search for this article: "Analysis of genetic recombination and the pan-genome of a highly recombinogenic bacteriophage species". Here is the first sentence from that article: "Bacteriophages are the most prevalent biological entities impacting on the ecosystem and are characterized by their extensive diversity". NOT A VIRUS, but a "biological entity".
I don't know how far you got in the Smithsonian but even though there will be things you disagree with, the history, which I promise you is accurate, is fascinating. The article you suggested from MicrobiologyReseach.org has a link to the full PDF paper:
That is the exact same article I referred to in my link directly above. This conversation is about worn out. I would like to end it with a completely new subject that you may find interesting. It seems to be happening in the world right now. Check this out: IN THE BIBLE, Ezekiel 38,39. God states that Gog will come down from the north. God says to Gog "When the time comes you will start thinking up an evil plan. You will decide to invade a helpless country where the people live in peace and security in unwalled towns that have no defenses". A number of paragraphs later God states that when Gog reaches Israel He is going to destroy him. God says that on that day there will be a sever earthquake in Israel. He says "every fish and bird, every animal large and small and every human being on the face of the earth will tremble for fear of me. Mountains will fall, cliffs will crumble and every wall will collapse". A little farther on God says "The corpses will be buried in Travelers Valley, east of the Dead Sea and it will take the Israelites 7 months to do it". Mindblowing prophecy! To me this sounds like Putin. It's like a sci-fi movie coming true. There is a website called ChristianEvidence.net that even wrote an article asking if Putin could be Gog. I got the text from "The Good News Bible, Today's English Version", Old Testament, copyright 1976. You can read this exact same Bible (Good News Bible and about 40 other translations)) online at BibleStudyTools.com.
Go back to the link. A little below the title and authors and above the word "Abstract" look a little to the right and you will see a red PDF icon. Click on it and it will take you to the full article. Once there, go to the "Introduction", which is a little below the "Abstract". The first few sentences of the Introduction will tell you that the bacteriophage is a virus. Thank you for sharing the above links.
Electron micrographs have been around much longer than software that can generate those images. Let's consider the measles, smallpox, or a hemorrhagic fever virus like Ebola. Each produces very specific visible signs that are pretty much only specific to those viruses. Each of those viruses produce different, unique symptoms and are found in everyone infected. If all that is really occurring is a reaction to a poor diet, lifestyle or toxic environmental exposure, please explain why people infected with any of those 3 viruses are experiencing such extremely unusual symptoms that aren't known for being symptoms of general unwellness? Ebola is found (for now) in Africa and not America. How are Africans abusing their body in such a way as to cause symptoms of Ebola that never happens to even one American?
AGAIN: please send me an EM of a virus or a bacteriophage. I asked for a photo that is NOT a computer generated image and you are avoiding the point and trying to make my point something other than what I asked for. My claim is not one virus has ever been isolated and shown to exist. Koch's postulates are the gold standard for establishing the causal relationships between pathogens and disease. If you can't satisfy the first postulate you have nothing. A small genetic snippet that has been grown in a cell culture does not satisfy the first postulate and is not a virus.
Here is an interesting article from the Smithsonian about the history of discovering viruses (with EMs) and they discuss Koch too:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-are-viruses-history-tobacco-mosaic-disease-180974480/
Here is a paper about Koch's postulates satisfied for Sars
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7095368/
Here is a paper with an EM of a bacteriophage
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Electron-micrograph-of-a-bacteriophage_fig2_307863150
Good luck.
As for Smithsonian's article, I wonder who wrote it. Quote: ..."dangerous pathogens that cause disease, such as the current coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2 causing a worldwide pandemic...". SARS-CoV-2 has never been identified by any lab anywhere in the world. The same goes for all "viruses". NOT EVEN ONE has been isolated. If I remember right, Steve even posted about this.
As for this statement of yours:
"Here is a paper about Koch's postulates satisfied for Sars". Maybe you didn't read the article from nih.gov because the title: "Koch's postulates fulfilled for SARS virus" is a flat out lie. Why do I say that? The first line of their text starts out with: "According to Koch's postulates, as modified by Rivers...". NOT SATISFIED FOR KOCH, BUT SATISFIED FOR RIVERS. That is a HUGE difference!
Thank-you for finding me a pic of a bacteriophage. In your opening remark you stated they are viruses. According to MicroBiologyResearch.org they are not. Please search for this article: "Analysis of genetic recombination and the pan-genome of a highly recombinogenic bacteriophage species". Here is the first sentence from that article: "Bacteriophages are the most prevalent biological entities impacting on the ecosystem and are characterized by their extensive diversity". NOT A VIRUS, but a "biological entity".
I don't know how far you got in the Smithsonian but even though there will be things you disagree with, the history, which I promise you is accurate, is fascinating. The article you suggested from MicrobiologyReseach.org has a link to the full PDF paper:
https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/docserver/fulltext/mgen/5/8/mgen000282.pdf?expires=1646877500&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=983717FEF667185CA6A5F3A00A876D9C
Read the first few sentences of the Introduction. See what you think.
That is the exact same article I referred to in my link directly above. This conversation is about worn out. I would like to end it with a completely new subject that you may find interesting. It seems to be happening in the world right now. Check this out: IN THE BIBLE, Ezekiel 38,39. God states that Gog will come down from the north. God says to Gog "When the time comes you will start thinking up an evil plan. You will decide to invade a helpless country where the people live in peace and security in unwalled towns that have no defenses". A number of paragraphs later God states that when Gog reaches Israel He is going to destroy him. God says that on that day there will be a sever earthquake in Israel. He says "every fish and bird, every animal large and small and every human being on the face of the earth will tremble for fear of me. Mountains will fall, cliffs will crumble and every wall will collapse". A little farther on God says "The corpses will be buried in Travelers Valley, east of the Dead Sea and it will take the Israelites 7 months to do it". Mindblowing prophecy! To me this sounds like Putin. It's like a sci-fi movie coming true. There is a website called ChristianEvidence.net that even wrote an article asking if Putin could be Gog. I got the text from "The Good News Bible, Today's English Version", Old Testament, copyright 1976. You can read this exact same Bible (Good News Bible and about 40 other translations)) online at BibleStudyTools.com.
Go back to the link. A little below the title and authors and above the word "Abstract" look a little to the right and you will see a red PDF icon. Click on it and it will take you to the full article. Once there, go to the "Introduction", which is a little below the "Abstract". The first few sentences of the Introduction will tell you that the bacteriophage is a virus. Thank you for sharing the above links.