I had some more thoughts about discussing vaccine issues with vaccinated people initially resistant to acknowledging harm from vaccines. Through this recent substack article, I have become more willing to express my views to some of my vaccinated friends. Unlike Steve, I don't have the position to approach members of congress and promi…
I had some more thoughts about discussing vaccine issues with vaccinated people initially resistant to acknowledging harm from vaccines. Through this recent substack article, I have become more willing to express my views to some of my vaccinated friends. Unlike Steve, I don't have the position to approach members of congress and prominent scientists. I think another participant in this discussion pushed me to consider why I bother trying to express my views--how will that prevent vaccine mandates and stop this vaccine madness?! In the short run (and maybe in the long run) perhaps this does nothing to help our cause. But does everything we do concerning vaccines have to help the cause--or else stop doing it? I do feel better each person that becomes more likely to tolerate the unvaccinated (and that means me!) I do feel better speaking freely about my opinion. It's such a relief to have the tables turned and have people ask hard questions of the authorities that rammed vaccine mandates down our throats and will keep trying to do this. Offering support and a community to unvaccinated feeling oppressed and bullied by the mainstream (Peter Hottetz thinks we are domestic terrorists for God's sake) is very important. Be able to speak our truth. Support the contrarian view concerning vaccine unsafety and ineffectiveness. That to me is worthwhile and can be done in addition to other actions designed to more directly to block vaccine passports and mandates. So it's not either or. It's BOTH AND.
Well said! The BEST way may be to demonstrate against vaccines or to red pill a prominent journalist such as Dr. Campbell. But let's not let the best become the enemy of the good. Do everything! That's why when arguing (discussing? debating?) Covid strategies with pro vaccine enthusiasts, I state that we should, in addition, allow treatment of Covid--not rely only on vaccines. Because there will always be breakthrough infections, and having early medical treatment would make such infections much less dangerous. The simile would be getting vaccinated and then having no plan for early medical treatment would be like performing an aerial circus routine without a safety net.
It may take a while, though. The vaccines definitely are unsafe--BUT not everyone drops dead, so it's hard to see, and the government can keep on claiming that vaccines are necessary. I think Steve K was interviewing a doctor who treated 500 patients and 1 died maybe of vaccine injury--but the doctor thought nothing of it. Steve said that's why most people fail to see the signal.
Re "The vaccines definitely are unsafe--BUT not everyone drops dead, so it's hard to see, and the government can keep on claiming that vaccines are necessary."
All true. Not everyone drops dead because we are individuals not a herd, with individual immune systems.
Also we haven't a clue what is in each vile vial. It could be just saline. This helps create an illusion of safety and only the unfortunate suffer. It also creates new customers for big pharma when the poison viles (sic) work.
Vaccine experiment necessary to expose once and for all that all vaccines ever were utterly pointless at best and that big p-harm-a causes harm not health as this is good for its business model.
Not everyone drops dead TRUE We are individuals TRUE Also not everyone gets the same vaccine dose. Some people get (as planned) an injection of mRNA vaccine into the muscle which it causes Spike which causes antibodies. And then the spike protein is reabsorbed after a month or so? Some people get almost NO mRNA vaccine product because of deficiencies in the batch. I learned that not all mRNA product is produced by the same manufacturer(s). Large batches tend to suffer from sedimentation so that the mRNA product sinks to the bottom of the container--but the top is almost pure saline. That way, when the vials are prepared, some are very high concentration--and some contain very little or no product. Yet another reason: mRNA doses are cumulative because the spike protein can remain in the body for several months. Each subsequent booster puts an additional strain on the body. The body, over time, learns to accommodate to the spike protein. In this way we become desensitized to the mRNA vaccines. We can, then, no longer mount an immune response. Theoretically, we might be able to predict who will get an adverse reaction: 1) People with autoimmune disorders 2)People with clotting, heart disorders. 3)Young people under 18 (especially males who are more vulnerable to cardiac myopathy) 4)People with immune problems who can't mount immunologic responses. Dr. James Lyons-Weiler is trying to collect evidence that would allow us to collect information from a person so that we could predict who is at risk from vaccine injury and avoid injecting them.
I had some more thoughts about discussing vaccine issues with vaccinated people initially resistant to acknowledging harm from vaccines. Through this recent substack article, I have become more willing to express my views to some of my vaccinated friends. Unlike Steve, I don't have the position to approach members of congress and prominent scientists. I think another participant in this discussion pushed me to consider why I bother trying to express my views--how will that prevent vaccine mandates and stop this vaccine madness?! In the short run (and maybe in the long run) perhaps this does nothing to help our cause. But does everything we do concerning vaccines have to help the cause--or else stop doing it? I do feel better each person that becomes more likely to tolerate the unvaccinated (and that means me!) I do feel better speaking freely about my opinion. It's such a relief to have the tables turned and have people ask hard questions of the authorities that rammed vaccine mandates down our throats and will keep trying to do this. Offering support and a community to unvaccinated feeling oppressed and bullied by the mainstream (Peter Hottetz thinks we are domestic terrorists for God's sake) is very important. Be able to speak our truth. Support the contrarian view concerning vaccine unsafety and ineffectiveness. That to me is worthwhile and can be done in addition to other actions designed to more directly to block vaccine passports and mandates. So it's not either or. It's BOTH AND.
Well said. Every little helps.
Well said! The BEST way may be to demonstrate against vaccines or to red pill a prominent journalist such as Dr. Campbell. But let's not let the best become the enemy of the good. Do everything! That's why when arguing (discussing? debating?) Covid strategies with pro vaccine enthusiasts, I state that we should, in addition, allow treatment of Covid--not rely only on vaccines. Because there will always be breakthrough infections, and having early medical treatment would make such infections much less dangerous. The simile would be getting vaccinated and then having no plan for early medical treatment would be like performing an aerial circus routine without a safety net.
I will never stop telling the truth, sharing the various and numerous studies... and keep being patient.
In the end, the vaccines will do the job by themselves
It may take a while, though. The vaccines definitely are unsafe--BUT not everyone drops dead, so it's hard to see, and the government can keep on claiming that vaccines are necessary. I think Steve K was interviewing a doctor who treated 500 patients and 1 died maybe of vaccine injury--but the doctor thought nothing of it. Steve said that's why most people fail to see the signal.
Re "The vaccines definitely are unsafe--BUT not everyone drops dead, so it's hard to see, and the government can keep on claiming that vaccines are necessary."
All true. Not everyone drops dead because we are individuals not a herd, with individual immune systems.
Also we haven't a clue what is in each vile vial. It could be just saline. This helps create an illusion of safety and only the unfortunate suffer. It also creates new customers for big pharma when the poison viles (sic) work.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/08/17/what-is-the-flu-a-k-a-covid-19-and-why-vaccines-are-pointless-at-best/
Vaccine experiment necessary to expose once and for all that all vaccines ever were utterly pointless at best and that big p-harm-a causes harm not health as this is good for its business model.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/vaccination-industry-in-a-nutshell/
Not everyone drops dead TRUE We are individuals TRUE Also not everyone gets the same vaccine dose. Some people get (as planned) an injection of mRNA vaccine into the muscle which it causes Spike which causes antibodies. And then the spike protein is reabsorbed after a month or so? Some people get almost NO mRNA vaccine product because of deficiencies in the batch. I learned that not all mRNA product is produced by the same manufacturer(s). Large batches tend to suffer from sedimentation so that the mRNA product sinks to the bottom of the container--but the top is almost pure saline. That way, when the vials are prepared, some are very high concentration--and some contain very little or no product. Yet another reason: mRNA doses are cumulative because the spike protein can remain in the body for several months. Each subsequent booster puts an additional strain on the body. The body, over time, learns to accommodate to the spike protein. In this way we become desensitized to the mRNA vaccines. We can, then, no longer mount an immune response. Theoretically, we might be able to predict who will get an adverse reaction: 1) People with autoimmune disorders 2)People with clotting, heart disorders. 3)Young people under 18 (especially males who are more vulnerable to cardiac myopathy) 4)People with immune problems who can't mount immunologic responses. Dr. James Lyons-Weiler is trying to collect evidence that would allow us to collect information from a person so that we could predict who is at risk from vaccine injury and avoid injecting them.